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Woodward Dream Cruise 2023 Dream Cruise guide for parking, timing, and events

FERNDALE, Mich. (FOX 2) - Rev up your engines and get ready for the ride of your life. If you're planning on attending the Woodward Dream Cruise, buckle up and read on to discover everything you need to know before attending.

The Woodward Dream Cruise is one of the largest car events in the world, featuring classic cars, muscle cars, and hot rods from all over the United States. 

The event takes place on Woodward Avenue, which spans nine cities and is revered as the "Main Street of America" for car enthusiasts.

READ NEXT: Woodward Dream Cruise will take place without construction barrels present

Rest assured, traffic won't be an issue on Woodward during the Dream Cruise. Despite road construction in the area during the summer, the event will not be affected.

When and where

The Woodward Dream Cruise takes place on Saturday, Aug. 18-19 from 9 a.m. to 9 p.m. Drivers will start cruising in Ferndale and make their way over to Pontiac.

Participation in the event as a driver or spectator is free of charge. However, non-classic car drivers are requested to avoid the two right lanes closest to the curb.

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Birmingham: All activities are within walking distance of the city’s downtown parking decks.

Ferndale: The municipal parking lots are surrounding downtown Ferndale, near Woodward Avenue & Nine Mile Rd.

Pontiac : Municipal parking lots and parking structures are located in surrounding downtown Pontiac.

Royal Oak : Guest parking is available at municipal parking lots and walking distance from Woodward.

•   Royal Oak Golf Center: Corner of Coolidge and West 13 Mile Rd.
• Gunn Dyer Park: South of Normandy between Coolidge and Woodward.
• Upton Park: South of West 14 mile Rd and Coolidge.

Local events

Many of the communities along the route will also have their own city-specific events for residents to attend. Many take place on Friday when the dream cruise officially kicks off.

• Berkley: CruiseFest Classic Car Parade on Friday, 6:30 p.m. to 7:30
• Ferndale: Emergency Vehicle Show on Friday, 1 p.m. to 7, Ribbon cutting ceremony at 5 p.m., Lights & Sirens Cruise at 5:30 p.m., MMRA's Quarter Midget Racing Cars from 12 p.m. to 8, Rock'n Live Entertainment Stage from 1 p.m. to 9:30, Mustang Alley on Saturday from 10 a.m. to 6 p.m.,
• Royal Oak: Performance Park Classic Car Show on Friday from 12 p.m. to 7, Cruise in Shoes 5K from 8 a.m. to 9: 30
• Pleasant Ridge: Ford Bronco Show on Saturday from 10 a.m. to 6 p.m.
• Pontiac: Pontiac Classic Car Show on Friday from 9 a.m. to 9 p.m., DJ Aaron at Hidden River from 12: 30 p.m. to 6:30 p.m., Woodward Dream Parade on Saturday from 10:30 a.m. to 11:30

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Woodward Dream Cruise

Experience the ultimate car lover's dream at the Woodward Dream Cruise! Join thousands of spectators as classic cars cruise down the famous avenue.

The Woodward Dream Cruise is a motor city tradition! Cars of all eras and makes cruise down Woodward Ave., revving engines and showing off. With nearly 40,000 cars and over 1 million visitors each year, it's a car lover's paradise! Experience the Motor City's passion for cars and enjoy all the music, food, and fun the cruise has to offer. Don't miss this opportunity to see some of the world's coolest cars in action and to be part of one of Detroit's most celebrated traditions!

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Woodward Dream Cruise 2023 in Detroit | Dates, Schedule of Events, Where to Park, Map, M1 Concourse | Where to Eat | Check Out the World's Biggest Cruise!

By Sherry Trautman

Last updated: August 17, 2023 | By Sherry Trautman | Travel-Mi.com

The Detroit Woodward Dream Cruise is the mothership of all car events. It's a celebration of Woodward Ave and car enthusiasm in the heart of the Motor City. I mean seriously, this incredible car cruise draws thousands of classic cars, muscle cars, trucks (and lots of crazy stuff ) to thunder down Woodward Avenue between Pontiac and Ferndale. 

Chris and I can't wait to go this August !

AND...more than 1.5 million car enthusiasts from all over the world are revved up to see some spectacular (and crazy) vehicles!

See the World's Biggest Cruise!

When is the 2023 Woodward Dream Cruise?

August 19, 2023!

BUT ... several communities have fun events and classic car shows on August 18, 2023. See the event schedule below!

The Woodward Dream Cruise is the World's Biggest Cruise?

Woodward Dream Cruise Frequently Asked Questions 

What day is the Woodward Dream Cruise 2023? August 19, 2023

Is the Woodward Dream Cruise free? Yes, the Dream Cruise is free to attend! 

How long does the Woodward Dream Cruise last? The cruise is just one day!

• Anyone not driving a classic/muscle car are asked to stay out of the two right lanes nearest to the curb.

What time is the Woodward Dream Cruise?  9 am to 9 pm.  BUT many people with show cars in the static car shows begin to leave parked shows (as they want to cruise) around 3:30 pm so I recommend hitting up the shows in the morning.

Are Their Bathrooms?   In the more populated areas, especially in Royal Oak, there are porta johns along Woodward Avenue. 

Is it Safe To Attend?   As with any large city, don't leave your items unattended. Make sure your bags/purses are zipped and closed. There is a very large police presence at the show and we felt comfortable.  We recommend going as it is a great family event!

Is This Your First Time at the Woodward Dream Cruise?

If it’s your first time to the show , we recommend finding a spot somewhere between Royal Oak and Birmingham as this stretch gets the most traffic and excitement. 

We recommend arriving early so you can find parking off Woodward Avenue before the side streets and lots are full.

We recommend bringing:

• Ear plugs if you are noise sensitive (especially for young children)
• Folding chairs with umbrellas 
• Water/non-alcoholic drinks
• TP (in case the porta johns are out)

The Dream Cruise Consists of 9 Communities within Oakland County, Michigan

• Bloomfield Hills
• Pleasant Ridge

Bloomfield Township

• Huntington Woods

History of the Woodward Dream Cruise

Woodward Dream Cruise was dreamed up as a small fundraiser to raise money for a soccer field in Ferndale, Michigan. Then, in August 1995, a group of people wished to relive the fun of the 50's and 60's, when music and Motor City steel roared down Woodward Avenue.  Blowing away expectations, the event drew 250,000 people!

​ Now, the Woodward Dream Cruise is the World’s Largest One-Day Automotive Event!

The Cruise brings about 1.5 million people and 40,000 classic cars to the area each summer.

People travel from all over the world to attend and be in the show.  It's an incredible experience!

Woodward Dream Cruise Map

*** Remember to use the  Woodward Dream Cruise Map link   for LIVE connection  to Google Maps!!

• Click on the plus and minus in the left corner to zoom in or out of the map.
• Click on the icons for more info, addresses and photos of the stops.
• Click on the map to drag and move it to view surrounding areas.
• In the Header, click on the rectangle in the upper left of the map to see a menu of all of our stops. Click on anything that looks interesting to see where it is on the map. To hide the menu, click the rectangle in the header.
• In the Header, click on the "square" icon in the upper right side to expand the map for better viewing.

Detroit Woodward Dream Cruise Schedule of Events (August 18-19, 2023) and Where to Park

The official parking App for Woodward Dream Cruise is ParkStash

M1 Concourse Events During the Woodward Dream Cruise

Friday, August 18, 2023: 

Hot rod, custom, cruiser, and muscle car show displayed around the M1 Circuit.  Featured classes include the 70th anniversary of Corvette, MOPAR, and Ramchargers 65th anniversary. Food trucks, refreshments, and live entertainment.

Saturday, August 19, 2023

The Woodward Dream Parade is an escorted parade of 200 invited cars that will be cruising on Woodward Avenue and in downtown Pontiac.

The M1 Cruise-In (Saturday August 19th) will be an oasis open to anyone looking to park on the M1 Concourse Circuit. We will be there!!

Experience Race Speed Track Experience (RSTEs) where you can can take a lap with a professional driver on the M1 Concourse Circuit. Food trucks, refreshments, and live entertainment.

Get your tickets for the MI Concourse events . 

City of Pontiac

It's definitely a burn out zone along Woodward Avenue in Pontiac!   

Friday, August 18, 2023:

• 9:00 AM – 9:00 PM: Pontiac Classic Car Show
• 12:30 PM – 6:30 PM: DJ Aaron @ Hidden River
• 7:00 PM – 10:30 PM: Hidden River Entertainment Stage, Saginaw & Water St.
• All Day: Food Trucks & Strolling Art Show

Saturday, August 19, 2023:

• 10:30 AM – 11:30 AM: Woodward Dream Parade
• 6:00 AM – 9:00 PM: Pontiac Classic Car Show
• 10:00 AM – 10:30 PM: Hidden River Entertainment Stage, Saginaw & Water St.

City of Pontiac Parking:  There are several parking lots and parking structures in downtown Pontiac.

No scheduled events

City of Birmingham

The Birmingham Cruise Event will feature classic cars of all makes and models, sponsor exhibits, food and more. The Birmingham Cruise Classic Car Show is within walking distance of Birmingham's five parking structures.  The first two hours are always free so stop by! 

• 9:00 am – 5:00 pm: Birmingham Cruise Classic Car Show in Downtown Birmingham
• Birmingham Cruise

Get your Official Woodward Dream Cruise Merchandise all day.

City of Birmingham Parking:  All Dream Cruise activities are close  walking distance from Birmingham's downtown parking decks.

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City of Berkley

• 6:30 PM – 7:30 PM: CruiseFest Classic Car Parade, On West 12 Mile Rd., between Coolidge & Greenfield Rd.
• 4:00 PM – 9:00PM: Official Woodward Dream Cruise Merchandise, West 12 Mile at Woodward Avenue

Saturday, August 19, 2023 :

• All Day: Official Woodward Dream Cruise Merchandise, West 12 Mile Rd at Woodward Avenue

City of Royal Oak

Friday, August 18, 2023 :

• 12:00 PM – 7:00 PM: Performance Park - Classic Car Show
• ALL DAY: Official Woodward Dream Cruise Merchandise, Vendors & Food Court
• 8:00 AM – 9:30 AM: Cruise In Shoes 5k Run
• 8:00 AM – 8:00 PM: Performance Park Classic Car Show
• All Day: Official Woodward Dream Cruise Merchandise, Vendors & Food Court

City of Pleasant Ridge

• All Day: Official Woodward Dream Cruise Merchandise, Woodward & Oakland Park Blvd.
• 10:00 AM – 6:00 PM: Ford Bronco Show , Woodward & Oakland Park Blvd.

City of Ferndale

Friday, August 18, 2023 – Nine Mile Rd & Woodward

• 1:00 PM – 7:00 PM: Ferndale Emergency Vehicle Show
• 5:00 PM: Official Woodward Dream Cruise Ribbon Cutting Ceremony
• 5:30 PM: Lights & Sirens Cruise (begins at the corner of E. Nine Mile Rd & Woodward Ave. north to 11 Mile Rd and back).
• 12:00 PM – 7:00 PM: Kids Car Club Zone
• 12:00 PM – 8:00 PM: MMRA'S Quarter Midget Racing Cars
• 1:00 PM – 9:30 PM: Rock’n Live Entertainment Stage
• All Day: Official Woodward Dream Cruise Merchandise, food and merchant vendors

Saturday, August 19, 2023 - Nine Mile Rd & Woodward

• 10:00 AM – 6:00 PM: Mustang Alley
• 10:00 AM – 7:00 PM: Kids Car Club Zone
• 11:00 AM – 9:30 PM: Rock’n Live Entertainment Stage

City of Ferndale Parking : Parking lots surround downtown Ferndale, near Woodward Avenue & Nine Mile Rd.

Things to do Nearby the Woodward Dream Cruise

Cranbrook Art Museum , 39221 Woodward Avenue. Cranbrook has a marvelous music or science center. Their gardens are also excellent and you can tour:

• The Saarinen House
• Behind the scenes collections wing tour
• Frank Lloyd Wright home
• Self-guided outdoors sculpture tours
• Cranbrook Observatory

Marvin’s Marvelous Mechanical - Listed as one of the World Almanac’s 100 Most Unusual Museums, this is a place you need to see to believe. Marvin’s Marvelous Mechanical Museum,  31005 Orchard Lake Road, Farmington Hills

My friend Marcy highly recommends eating at Sylvan Table which we will try this year. It is a farm-to-table restaurant. The restaurant is in a few hundred year old barn they moved from the east coast and built a farm around it. Cool, huh!

• Other restaurant ideas that come highly recommended from locals include the Latin restaurant Freya and The Apparatus Room.

Are There Bathrooms at the Woodward Dream Cruise?

There are lots of porta johns along Woodward Ave in the more populated areas. Memorial Park in Royal Oak has a large bank of porta johns for the classic car show. 

Are There Food Trucks or Places to Eat at Woodward Dream Cruise?

Absolutely! There are food trucks and vendors lining Woodward avenue in the more populated areas, especially Royal Oak and Ferndale. There are also lots of great restaurants along Woodward Avenue.

We enjoy eating at Brown Iron Brewhouse in Royal Oak .

• Chris was eyeing the Brown Iron Burger with Wagyu Beef, applewood smoked bacon, cheddar cheese and a yummy caramelized onion spread but got the Slow Smoke BBQ Pork sandwich with yummy pickles!
• I got the Cali salmon BLT with avocado crema...be sure to order extra crema, it's yummy!

Um, can you say BACON CANDY?  Drool. 

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Woodward Dream Cruise returns this weekend. Here's what to know about parking, events and more

By Sara Powers

August 16, 2023 / 11:49 AM EDT / CBS Detroit

(CBS DETROIT) - The Woodward Dream Cruise is here for its 2023 season! Here's everything you need to know about the route, parking, free bus rides, community events and more!

When and where is the Woodward Dream Cruise? 

The event will happen on Saturday, Aug. 19, from 9 a.m. to 9 p.m. 

The Woodward Dream Cruise was founded in 1995 and goes through nine Oakland County communities along 16 miles of Woodward Avenue. 

The participating communities include Pontiac, Bloomfield Township, Bloomfield Hills, Birmingham, Royal Oak, Berkley, Huntington Woods, Pleasant Ridge and Ferndale. 

To view the official map for the event, visit here . 

What can visitors expect during the Woodward Dream Cruise?

Every year, the event draws in about 1.5 million people who can expect to see over 400,000 cars, including muscle, street rods, custom builds, collector cars and special edition vehicles participating in the cruise. 

Ford Motor Company is again the event's sponsor for the sixth consecutive year. 

"It's incredibly special to celebrate Ford's 120th Anniversary with Henry Ford's first race car along with our entire portfolio to help power the Woodward Dream Cruise," said Bryan Guldi, Ford U.S. branded activations manager, in a press release. "Collaborating with the Woodward Dream Cruise is very important to Ford Motor Company because we strive to contribute and give back in meaningful ways to the communities where we live, work... and cruise."

The 2023 Woodward Dream Cruise features the new Mustang Dark Horse, which is debuting this summer with an updated look and maintains manual transmission.

Ford will also feature its Bronco Raptor and F-150 Lightning at the event. 

Will there be construction during the Woodward Dream Cruise? 

The construction on Woodward Avenue from Eight Mile Road to Oakridge Street will pause for the event. 

Cars will have access to all four lanes of Woodward Avenue in both directions. 

Where to park during the Woodward Dream Cruise?

Parking is available along the route, and according to the Woodward Dream Cruise's website, here are some areas guests can find parking:

Royal Oak Golf Center: Corner of Coolidge and West 13 Mile Rd. Gunn Dyer Park: South of Normandy between Coolidge and Woodward. Upton Park: South of West 14 mile Rd and Coolidge.

• City of Birmingham: All activities are within walking distance of the city's downtown parking decks.
• City of Ferndale: The municipal parking lots surround downtown Ferndale, near Woodward Avenue & Nine Mile Rd.
• City of Pontiac: Municipal parking lots and structures surround downtown Pontiac.
• City of Royal Oak: Guest parking is available at municipal parking lots and within walking distance from Woodward. Specifically, guests can look for parking at the Royal Oak Golf Center, Gunn Dyer Park and Upton Park. 

In addition, the event website shared a Facebook account where the community shares more information about where visitors can find parking and other events. 

How to get SMART bus rides during the Woodward Dream Cruise?

During the Woodward Dream Cruise, the SMART Shuttle will be free for everyone who wants to ride. People can catch a ride at any of the SMART RED or FAST bus stops from Eight Mile Road to Pontiac. 

Where to buy Woodward Dream Cruise Merchandise?

Official merchandise can be found at the following locations: 

• Ferndale City Hall, 300 East Nine Mile Rd., Downtown Ferndale (Mon - Thurs, 8:00 a.m. - 5:00 p.m.)
• Nine Mile Road., east of Woodward Ave., Ferndale (Aug. 18 & 19)
• Pleasant Ridge City Hall, 23925 Woodward Ave., west of Woodward, south of I-696 (Aug. 19)
• Corner of West 12 Mile Road @ Woodward Avenue, Berkley (Aug. 18 & 19)
• Westborn Market - 27659 Woodward Ave., Berkley (Aug. 19)
• Zoe's Restaurant - 25994 Woodward Ave., Royal Oak (Aug. 18 & 19)
• Sherwin Williams - 27958 Woodward Ave., Royal Oak (Aug. 18 & 19)
• CVS Pharmacy, 30900 Woodward Ave., Royal Oak (Aug. 18 & 19)
• Gus's World Famous Hot & Spicy Fried Chicken, 31105 Woodward Ave., Royal Oak (Aug. 18 & 19)
• Kinkos - 33100 Woodward Ave., Birmingham (Aug. 19)
• West Maple Road, north corner of Woodward, 35075 Woodward Ave., Birmingham (Aug. 18, 19, & 20)
• Birmingham Cruise, Downtown Birmingham, Old Woodward Avenue - multiple locations (Aug. 19)

Other related events happening this weekend

• The Woodward Dream Cruise Ribbon-Cutting Ceremony: This ceremony will start at 5 p.m. on Friday, Aug. 18, on East Nine Mile Road at Woodward Avenue.
• Lights & Sirens Cruise: This parade will happen at 5:30 p.m. on Friday, following the ribbon-cutting ceremony. The procession will head north on Woodward to 11 Mile Road and return to Nine Mile Road. 
• Woodward Dream Show: This event is happening Friday and Saturday at the M-1 Concourse in Pontiac. To celebrate Corvette's 70th anniversary, they will have 70 Corvettes, one from each production year. In addition, they will also have a 1983 Corvette, which is the only one in the world! For more information on the Woodward Dream Show, visit here.
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Everything You Need to Know About the Woodward Dream Cruise

There's something about Woodward Avenue and cruisin' .

As one of the major roadways in Detroit, Michigan, Woodward Ave. has been the setting for road racing going all the way back to 1848, when carriage drivers used to race along the uneven plank road.

In the 1950s, teenage car culture blossomed on Woodward. Not only were there multiple drive-ins to cruise, but the automotive dealerships and service stations of the Motor City somehow seemed to all center around this one road. Street racing became all the rage. If you had a muscle car, you were seen on Woodward Ave.

Therefore, it's the obvious setting for one of the most celebrated classic car events in modern times: The Woodward Dream Cruise.

What Is the Woodward Dream Cruise?

The Woodward Dream Cruise is the largest one-day automotive event in the world, hosting approximately 1.5 million visitors and 40,000 of the coolest muscle cars, classic cars, hot rods, and street rods from around the world.

The event started as a fundraiser for the Ferndale, Michigan youth soccer field. Nelson House, a local plumber, and Mayor Pamela S. McCullough.

But, what was meant to be a one-shot fund raiser became a huge success. Today, the event is hosted across several metro Detroit communities.

The Third Saturday of August

Each year, on the third Saturday of August, Oakland County comes alive with the roar of the Motor City's claim to fame.

The cars from the 1950s, '60s, and '70s congregate on the M1 Concourse. In true cruisin' style, the cars complete a 16-mile loop of the hosting communities, including Birmingham, Ferndale, Pleasant Ridge, Royal Oak, Huntington Woods, Berkley, Bloomfield Township, Bloomfield Hills, and Pontiac.

The cruise ends at the State Fair Grounds, just south of 8 Mile Road.

Dozens of car clubs are invited to attend, and a variety of car shows are held along Woodward Ave. on the weekend of the cruise. Whether you drive a Ford, a Pontiac, or a DeLorean, your car is welcome at the Woodward Dream Cruise.

Though the coronavirus pandemic shut down the Woodward Dream Cruise in 2020 (though an unofficial event was held by Woodward residents), the event is back on track for 2021, including the new Woodward Dream Show to be hosted in conjunction with the cruise. While the two are separate automotive events, the car show plans to keep the hype going with host Bob Larivee, and a variety of events to continue celebrating some of the best cars to ever come out of Detroit.

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Woodward Dream Cruise

By ron hausmann August 12, 2019 in General Discussion

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All - it’s Woodward Dream Cruise this Saturday and all weeknights leading up to it.  Ten miles of eight-lane highway packed with every conceivable muscle car, hot rod, classic car, tractor, truck, and even a few half tracks. My Kissels will be driving around the Birmingham, Michigan area these nights and at the intersection of Old Woodward and Woodward (South End) on Saturday. Here’s a Picture  of the two cars I’ll drive and display.

Ron Hausmann P.E.

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I am also planning on having a car driving around the nights prior, and on display at Pasteiner's the day of the Dream Cruise. I hope to have my 1922 Oldsmobile Model 47 V8 Touring Car out and about:

I have significantly more work to get the Oldsmobile up and running than Mr. Hausmann does with his cars though. You'll notice I'm pointing at something missing from the car... The sharp eyed folks will see it in the background. Luckily it is much closer to being back together again than when this picture was taken...  😁

Nothing like a deadline to help you get the work done!

franklinman

We’ll be there with at least 2 early Broncos.  Both are AACA Grand National winners. We will probably have a third along for driving/cruising, my buddy’s Stroppe ambulance. Never been to this before but looking forward to it.

Matt Harwood

We'll be there somewhere with the Pink Lady.

Brass is Best

Double check your cooling systems. Have fun!

bryankazmer

lots of rods and used Corvettes

I plan to be there in wifes 91 Mustang convert

countrytravler

23 hours ago, Matt Harwood said: We'll be there somewhere with the Pink Lady.  

Find this guy. Shelby Jet. He bought this car new and still has it. 62 fuel car. He just finished this black one. He and I use to to street race on the Woodward Ave.

Cadillac & LaSalle Club will be at the Shrine Church Tower Parking Lot, NE corner 12 Mile & Woodward today (Wed) from noon until about 9 pm. 

Oldsmobile Club will be at the same location all day Saturday. 

Both clubs welcome anyone with their marque cars to stop by and say hi. 

I started cruising Woodward Ave with my dad in the early 60s. He worked for GM and his job was to test muscle cars. He would bring home a different car almost every night and my dad would would take me and a friend or 2 depending on the car and go street racing. My dad was a professional driver. He was a backup driver for NASCAR in the 50s. He would have to report on the results. Not only GM he would bring home but also the other big 3. It was mostly for testing. Then I got my license in 68 and my 1st car was a 65 Chev Impala SS convertible with the 409-400-4 speed. 400.00. Woodward and Telegraph was my 2nd home until the 90s when I moved to FL. Lot of good times on the AV. Never wreck or got a ticket. Just some of the cars that I had through the years street racing. The 57 Bird had a 427 Hi Riser, the 63s had 409s, the black truck had a 454 with a tunnel ram, the green truck had a 327 375 fuelie. The red 62  Chev Clone car had a 427 Z11, very rare engine. The white 62, my 2nd 409 car in 68. The black 62 409-409 in 1980. 65 fuel car in 78, not actual picture of car.  9000.00. My 1st Vette that i bought in 74 when I got back from the NAVY. 65 fuel car, 1800.00. not actual picture.  66 GTO 421 tri power car, bought in 76, 2000.00. My 2nd Vette bought in 75 for 1800.00. Backet case 427 390 glide car. I put a LT1 with turbo 400. Car ran 12.20.  70 LT1 Vette bought in 78. 3600.00. 72 Chev with a built 402. Just a few of the cars that was raced on Woodward except for the white 63. That was strip only car. We won the Nationals in 88 with that car. It had a 409 with a 2 barrel carb and power glide. 12.70s @ 107 all day long.

16 minutes ago, countrytravler said:  I got my license in 68 and my 1st car was a 65 Chev Impala   

Also, I have a brother who lives near you in Groveland...

6 minutes ago, Lebowski said:   Thanks for the info and great pics. We have a couple of things in common. I got my license in '68 too and my first car was a dark blue '65 Impala. Unfortunately mine had a 6 and 3 on the tree. My dad knew I had a heavy foot and he said you can have a car with a 6 or you can walk. Less than a year later my license was suspended for 2 months because of too many tickets....    Also, I have a brother who lives near you in Groveland...

WOW!! how cool!! Thanks for the share.

Great photos, thanks for posting!

STEVE POLLARD

Beautiful cars !!  

Started crusin Woodward in a "51 Kaiser, 54 Buick Century, then Pontiacs 60, 63, 65, 68, then Fords.

In '91 gave wife a '91  Stang   GT convertible,  use it every year.

I think the '60 Poncho with tri power, munci 4 speed and 3.90 was the best!

Our anniversary is the 19th, so the cruse is a good reminder...............to get the car ready................!

Well, we made it to Dearborn, Broncos unloaded and cleaned up. Now we can relax and start having some fun!

Guest Mark McAlpine

This year is the 25th anniversary of the Woodward Dream Cruise, so it should be even a little bit more special than usual.  Heading down to Woodward now to pick-up some shirts and dash plaques before they sell out this weekend.

Thank you to everyone for posting photos so people who can't attend the cruise can still enjoy it vicariously.

PLEASE PEOPLE!!!

PUT GPS TRACKING IN YOUR VEHICLES!!!!!!

Cruising on a trailer to avoid the Goonies 

Some photos from today. If you haven't been there, it's pretty remarkable. People line the sides of Woodward, there are parties going on everywhere with music and cook outs, and cars cruise up and down Woodward all day. There are also car shows in every single parking lot. The whole thing is maybe 8 or 10 miles long, both directions, so it's A LOT of cars and people. Cruisers are supposed to keep to the right two lanes so the commuters can still use the left two lanes, but obviously that wasn't happening and I think if you're a local and don't know this is going on and try to go to the grocery store, you probably shouldn't be behind the wheel. There are cars EVERYWHERE.

There were a few interesting cars and we may head out later and see if there's more action and better cars later this evening. By far the #1 most common car was the late-model Mustang, followed closely by C5/C6/C7 Corvettes and late-model Challengers. The most common "old" car might have been 70-72 GM A-bodies. A half-dozen Model Ts were zipping up and down the street, and there's always some really wonky stuff like the giant shopping cart, which I thought was just too cool.

Most people were behaving, although there was considerable police presence everywhere you looked--I'm sure this is a very lucrative weekend for the local constabularies. Plenty of revving engines and burning rubber, and one moron doing a burnout until something expensive-sounding gave way and then the police rolled up. 

If you're a car guy, it's worth a trip to Detroit, which is still a great city. There were cars and people from all over the country and all over the world here having fun. I would have personally liked some more variety, but I guess that's the direction the hobby is headed. If there's someone to blame for the reduction in participation in old car meets, it might be the OEMs cranking out modern muscle cars that are easy to buy, easy to maintain, and easy to drive. More than one person said that they'd never go back to driving old cars again. That's sad.

Drove both the 1923 Kissel Gold Bug and the 1921 Kissel Sport Tourster at yesterday ‘s Woodward Dream Cruise! Wonderful spot in Birmingham Michigan. The parked cars became people-magnets when we stopped cruising.. didn’t see as many old cars as last year either, echoing previous comments. Both cars acted up. The packing but on the Gold Bug started peeing water while the Tourster started to refuse to shift. Guess I’ve got more stuff to fix!

Woodward Dream Cruise is always a blast!

https://www.autoblog.com/2019/08/17/2019-woodward-dream-cruise-mega-gallery/#slide-2161893

https://www.detroitnews.com/videos/news/local/michigan/2019/08/18/riding-dream-cruise-shopping-cart/2045560001/

https://www.freep.com/picture-gallery/money/cars/dream-cruise/2019/08/17/woodward-dream-cruise-2019-pictures/2040088001/

taking the first photo gallery as a random sampling:

original appearance prewar:  0.6% (1 car)

original appearance, post war:  27%

Modified:   44%

Used Cars (late model):  28%

This was a quick sort.  Some of the "modified" would switch to "orig, post war" with a wheel change, but I was too lazy to go back and split that out.  You might classify a given car differently, but the total is high enough that these splits should be fairly accurate.

I don't think this is a totally random sample of the hobby because prewar car owners generally don't like to drive in a traffic jam like Woodward Cruise. 

Nonetheless, what do you think this says (if anything) about the hobby?

1 hour ago, bryankazmer said: what do you think this says (if anything) about the hobby?

My takeaways:

• Most people believe that new Mustangs/Camaros/Corvettes/Challengers are collector cars.
• Most people want cars that are painless to own and drive, and are getting more insistent on having power steering and A/C. Even young people who could handle an older car want conveniences. If your mother drove a car in the early '50s, she's actually more of a man than most men in late-model muscle cars today.
• Most people think old cars aren't reliable or are unusable in the modern world, or they are afraid of driving in traffic with something that doesn't have ABS and airbags, or that old cars are a death trap.
• Most people equate fast with fun. Slow can't possibly be fun so why own a slow car?
• Most people do not know how to drive a manual transmission, let alone something without synchronizers.
• Most people have zero vision or imagination and only want what they see around them. As more late-model cars fill shows (and fewer old cars show up), it becomes a self-reinforcing feedback loop.
• Being able to buy a brand new "collector car" at the dealer and have low monthly payments and a warranty is more desirable than buying an old car that they are just sure will always break down.
• Spending money is preferable to doing anything yourself. Most "customized" late-model cars consist of bolt-on parts that were engineered by someone else. If you have a credit card, you can make a totally unique late-model "collector" car that's just like everyone else's. You can also buy stickers--that's fun.
• Guys who drive Model Ts seem to have the most fun of all.

Easy to own, great performance, warranty, easy to find parts and get serviced all make the latest generation of performance cars attractive. They can be driven every day so only one car ownership required.  The comment on the Model T is excellent, fun at a bargain price.  I would think Model A owners fit that description too.

auburnseeker

Probably doesn't help they took Votech/ shop class out of schools,  so guys don't know a thing about mechanical work or even how to wet their feet for those that aren't born into a Mechanical family.  It's easier for the counselors to push college degrees in liberal arts than to see the value in teaching a trade. 

We also have another 50 years of cars to pick from that they didn't have 50 years ago and as mentioned think of the offerings of the mid 70's to early 90's from the dealer compared to Today's offerings.  

Of course from the literature I sell and get to look at.  the auto manufactures use to really push education about mechanical things.  I suspect few do now.   What was better than Chevrolet coming up with the corvette then sending all kinds of stuff to schools about the engineering and construction of it along with the whole parade of Progress?  

I doubt any of the big manufactures promote stuff like that anymore,  except at maybe the college level and even then I would bet it's much more minimal. 

2 hours ago, Matt Harwood said:   My takeaways: Most people believe that new Mustangs/Camaros/Corvettes/Challengers are collector cars. Most people want cars that are painless to own and drive, and are getting more insistent on having power steering and A/C. Even young people who could handle an older car want conveniences. If your mother drove a car in the early '50s, she's actually more of a man than most men in late-model muscle cars today. Most people think old cars aren't reliable or are unusable in the modern world, or they are afraid of driving in traffic with something that doesn't have ABS and airbags, or that old cars are a death trap. Most people equate fast with fun. Slow can't possibly be fun so why own a slow car? Most people do not know how to drive a manual transmission, let alone something without synchronizers. Most people have zero vision or imagination and only want what they see around them. As more late-model cars fill shows (and fewer old cars show up), it becomes a self-reinforcing feedback loop. Being able to buy a brand new "collector car" at the dealer and have low monthly payments and a warranty is more desirable than buying an old car that they are just sure will always break down. Spending money is preferable to doing anything yourself. Most "customized" late-model cars consist of bolt-on parts that were engineered by someone else. If you have a credit card, you can make a totally unique late-model "collector" car that's just like everyone else's. You can also buy stickers--that's fun. Guys who drive Model Ts seem to have the most fun of all.    

The Ohio Model T Jamboree gets around 100 Model Ts every year. Done the last three in our 1911. Lots of families participating. Wonderful time! Unfortunately I have to miss this year due to wedding of good non car friend.

       they are reporting that there were about 1.5 million people lining the street or cruising between eight mile road and Pontiac, which is the 12 mile stretch of Woodward which is generally the “Dream Cruise” circuit. And 40,000 cars. How can you describe this? 

       My grandchildren and I were counting languages we heard. Our spot was at 14 1/2 mile and Woodward. We heard 15 separate languages spoken. I talked to many people who come here from around the world just to be part of this automotive celebration. Mostly Asian, European, and middle eastern. They all loved the Gold Bugs side seats!

2 hours ago, auburnseeker said: Probably doesn't help they took Votech/ shop class out of schools,  so guys don't know a thing about mechanical work or even how to wet their feet for those that aren't born into a Mechanical family.  It's easier for the counselors to push college degrees in liberal arts than to see the value in teaching a trade. 

I'm a high school liberal arts teacher, and you're mostly right, but most schools are pushing STEM degrees (science, technology, engineering, math), at least in Michigan.  Unfortunately, few of these students (at my school anyway) are truly interested in anything mechanical.  Those who want to be engineers seem to go into it, to some extent, due to the perception of a comfortable lifestyle more than any burning interest in how things work (not that I blame them).  The medical field seems really popular right now.  Times change...  Cars are more reliable, so you don't have to get to know them by working on them on a regular basis.  Most schools don't have auto shop (which is partially a chicken and egg deal), so they're not exposed to cars there.  I think quite a few kids like the modern stuff, some like older stuff, but it's never going to be like it was when my dad was a kid, or even when I was a kid, when 5.0 Mustangs were really popular.   

This year's graduating class had a refreshing number of kids going into the trades, like welding and construction.  Few mechanics.  I'd still say it was under 10 percent.  I hope things get better in the future; I try to sell the trades to interested students whenever I can.

5 hours ago, Matt Harwood said: Guys who drive Model Ts seem to have the most fun of all.

Jay Leno said the Model T is the best antique car to own. Inexpensive, cool antique look and parts availability. I've seen T coupes on Ebay in drive away condition, unrestored but serviceable for 8000.

I'd love to have a Model S boat tail roadster, but I don't think they are too inexpensive.

I'd like to do the Woodward cruise, but steam cars don't like parades or traffic jams. Gotta keep the fuel moving or she carbons up.

      If you ever do take your oldies to the Woodward Dream Cruise in Michigan, the “cruising” is much better the entire week beforehand!

     The actual Saturday Of the Woodward Dream Cruise is a 12 mile long traffic jam, unsuitable for old cars that need to move. But Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday late afternoons and evenings before Saturday are PERFECT for cruising. That’s when many of us go!

     Regardless, it is one bucket-list act9vity that you all need to look into in my opinion. It’s a blast.

     Ron Hausmann P.E.

More cruise pictures. Grandchildren love the cars!

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Longitude is counted from the prime meridian ( IERS Reference Meridian for WGS 84) and varies from −180° to 180°. Positive longitude values correspond to the geographic locations east of the prime meridian (abbrev. E). Negative longitude values correspond to the geographic locations west of the prime meridian (abbrev. W).

UTM or Universal Transverse Mercator coordinate system divides the Earth’s surface into 60 longitudinal zones. The coordinates of a location within each zone are defined as a planar coordinate pair related to the intersection of the equator and the zone’s central meridian, and measured in meters.

Elevation above sea level is a measure of a geographic location’s height. We are using the global digital elevation model GTOPO30 .

Elektrostal , Moscow Oblast, Russia