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Star Trek ’s return to the beloved characters of The Next Generation is coming to a close, and with the final season of Picard airing this year, this may be the last time that the cast graces our screens in their classic roles. However, it shouldn’t mean the end of revisiting some classic Trek series. There’s always been a beloved (but severely underappreciated) Star Trek series waiting in the wings for a proper modern revival: Deep Space Nine . While it might seem a bit soon after Picard to return to another old incarnation in the series, make no mistake, Deep Space Nine is well deserved of a rewatch and a return.

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The Next Generation is not only arguably the most beloved series in the Star Trek franchise (bar its middling first season) but one of the most influential sci-fi shows of all time, and the show is one of the best episodic series of its era. As the franchise’s first attempt at following a cast outside the original series Enterprise crew the show had big shoes to fill — and over the course of its mind-boggling 178 episodes (a feat no other show in the franchise has matched to date), it succeeded in that goal. Jean-Luc Picard ( Patrick Stewart ) proved to be a very different but well-respected heir to the throne that James Kirk ( William Shatner ) became famous for, and the show’s inclusion of new and exciting characters such as Klingon officer Worf ( Michael Dorn ) and android officer Data ( Brent Spiner ) gave more unique outsider perspectives to the series and prompted unique philosophical questions . It truly felt like a step forward for the franchise. Klingons were no longer simple villains but a culture to be cooperated with and learned about, alien species could vary from human-like to nearly incomprehensible life forms. Almost all additions the show made to the canon have become extremely iconic, with The Borg (first introduced in the second season) quickly becoming one of the most terrifying and unique villains in science fiction history.

With all that considered, it’s no surprise that Picard was eventually made. The world of TNG was so inviting that fans had been clamoring for a proper return. However, while the series has largely been received well by critics and fans, it’s a very different final product than what TNG delivered. Picard is a far darker show than TNG was (not to say that the show was never afraid to handle dark topics ), and while TNG evoked a fairly comfortable episodic format for the majority of its run, Picard utilizes a serialized plot. The show is good, but it can sometimes feel very unlike what made the original TNG so beloved. With its darker and edgier tone, more morally complex cast, frequent political edge, and serialized format, it feels more like a spiritual successor to a completely different 90s-era Star Trek show: Deep Space Nine.

While DS9’s first two seasons seemed to mimic TNG’s more episodic philosophy, the show always had a hint of a greater plot forming in the background. Being the first Star Trek series to remain in a single location rather than a constantly moving starship, the consequences of each episode’s conflict can’t simply be left behind by moving forward to a new star system, the recovery of the nearby planet Bajor from its long-term occupation by the hostile alien race the Cardassians is a constantly evolving issue with new challenges for the cast to tackle each episode. With the introduction of The Dominion at the end of the show’s second season , Deep Space Nine begins its true plot: an expansive and all-encompassing war the likes of which Trek hadn’t seen since its brief conflict with The Borg. DS9 diverted from a series model like TNG, which allowed audiences to (with occasional exceptions) jump into the action at any time, and instead adopted a far more serialized format, a risky move in the pre-streaming era. The show rewarded patient and attentive fans with callbacks and season-long plots that grew and changed from episode to episode. Despite using the characters of TNG , Picard seemingly has a bit more in common structure-wise with DS9 than it does with the series it draws its cast and title from.

Due to being serialized, DS9 is uniquely primed for a sequel series in ways that TNG never was. It’s a show that at times feels so deeply modern in its execution that the only things that feel out of place are some outdated CGI shots and grainy camera quality. A sequel series could get as dark and political as it wanted and still be exactly in step with what makes DS9 so beloved. And speaking of politics.

'Deep Space Nine' Was Not Afraid To Get Political (And Do It Well)

In our modern media landscape, the idea of a series ‘getting political’ is a bit of a can-of-worms statement. It could mean anything from being thoughtfully handling a political issue, to clumsily inserting some ‘ripped from the headlines’ event, to simply having POC cast members. Deep Space Nine is a show that is fundamentally about politics, deftly utilizing its setting to comment on real-world issues while entertaining the audience with its grounded and well-written characters.

The series debuted with a controversial choice right off the bat with the introduction of Benjamin Sisko ( Avery Brooks ), the first Black commander (and later the first Black captain) in Trek history. Star Trek has been renowned for its progressive ideals since The Original Series premiered in 1966 with a multicultural cast and an attempt to portray a complete absence of the sort of racial prejudices that existed at the time. However, many science fiction fans remain stubbornly opposed to any attempt to continue this legacy, the idea of major Black characters even existing in science fiction remains frustratingly controversial even to this day, and Avery Brooks’ appearance was policed by producers prior to the series premiere who were concerned about him looking “too street” for the general viewing audience. However, as the show continued, it was clear that the showrunners were quite aware of how significant this casting was, not only to the Star Trek franchise but to science fiction as a whole.

Sisko, like Picard before him, is a towering presence in his series, exuding both charisma and authority throughout the show’s run. However, unlike Picard, Sisko is given more opportunities to showcase other sides of his personality beyond his role as commander (and later captain) of the titular space station. In his interactions with his son Jake ( Cirroc Loften ) we are shown a doting father that deeply cares for his son’s wellbeing, and with his love of baseball, we are further shown that the stern and serious commander has a softer side as well. He’s one of the best main characters Trek has ever produced. DS9 even later brought the topic of Black exclusion from science fiction to the forefront in one of its most acclaimed and beloved episodes , “Far Beyond The Stars,” which used the setting of a 1950s science fiction magazine to comment on the obvious racism inherent in the opposition to a Black captain in a show made forty years later.

Outside metatextual political choices, the show was deeply invested in controversial issues, especially the issue of colonization and occupation, most often brought up in relation to main cast member Major Kira ( Nana Visitor ). Through her background in the militia that helped force the Cardassians off her planet, DS9 was able to address the ethics of terrorism and guerilla warfare, the horrors of concentration camps and comfort women, and the role of religion in these conflicts – an especially notable inclusion in the otherwise largely atheistic Star Trek franchise. With occasional exceptions of elements that feel dated or unwisely handled, DS9 examines its political topics with a great deal of tact and grace, utilizing a dark tone but never feeling as if it’s going for shock value with its subject matter. Capable simultaneously of having serious episodes about genocide and chemical warfare, and having an episode where the characters just play baseball together , and it never feels jarring. It is a very mature show that respects its audience enough to not handle these topics with kid gloves, and it has aged astonishingly well in the more than twenty years since it ended.

This forward-thinking and progressive tone, paired with an unashamed interest in modern politics surrounding war and the effects of colonization, means that DS9 has debatably aged the best out of any classic Trek series. Concepts originated in early shows, such as the body-swapping gender-shifting Trill, are taken from a poorly-aged comment about how society “isn’t ready” for same-gender relationships in TNG to an impressively prescient portrayal of the experience of transitioning and the way trans people are treated in DS9. Some elements do need updates, showrunner Ira Steven Behr acknowledged in the 2018 documentary What We Left Behind that not enough of an effort was made to present queer stories in an intentional and serious way. This introspection arguably makes the prospect of a sequel series even more appealing, if the series can give the same respect and maturity to modern topics as it did to social issues in the 90s, it can reap great rewards.

There’s Already a Framework In Place For a 'DS9' Sequel Series

Not only is DS9 better suited from a strict story-to-story basis to have a sequel series like Picard , but it already has a plan in place to do so. While TNG ended with a well-received but status-quo-continuing finale, DS9 instead ended its tenure with a series of shocking galaxy-changing revelations and character changes. It’s an excellent ending to the series, but it ended on a cliffhanger regarding the fate of several of its main characters that has left fans clamoring for more for decades. While TNG left plenty of interesting plots and threads for Picard to pull on, DS9 has many actual plots and characters already primed for a revisit.

The creators have also shown a willingness and desire to finish the series with one last return, much of What We Left Behind is made up of members of the original writing team detailing a possible continuation of the show that was organically set in the same time frame after the original series ended — two years before Picard would grace our screens using the same concept. According to Ira Steven Behr, all the planning of a hypothetical Season 8 was just an "exercise," but he also admitted that the team became quite energized in pitching a new season. The original creators are still passionate about expanding this world, interested in where structures like The Dominion had changed in the time away. A sequel series would definitely be enhanced by this palpable excitement that the original team has for the property, a wealth of new storylines just waiting in the stables if a series was greenlit.

A sequel series would work in our modern context because, in its own way, DS9 already works so well in modern terms. TNG is a show that is immersed in optimism and a curious and lighthearted tone, which makes the far more serious Picard feel much more jarring as a continuation. DS9 doesn’t have this problem, it’s dark and industrial aesthetic and serious tone already feel like a perfect mesh for what Picard was aiming for. The problems that a serialized show in the 90s would face have evaporated in the face of streaming; it’s no longer a big ask for an audience to be invested across an entire season of television, it’s almost expected. DS9 was a binge-worthy series before that word was even invented, and is probably the most future-proof show that Trek has ever produced.

Despite all of these great things DS9 was routinely underappreciated on a commercial and fan level during its original launch. Compared to TNG the series was never able to amass the same level of eyes on the show as its predecessor did, partially due to an almost vitriolic opposition to how different the series was compared to other Star Trek shows and partially due to syndication making the show difficult to follow (episodes would often show at late or unexpected hours with no reruns for months at a time, making it hard for all but the most dedicated of fans to keep up with the story). The show was very well critically received, and although it’s garnered an immense cult following, it’s never received the audience that it really deserved.

There's been a recent resurgence in love and appreciation for the series (encouraged by a much-hyped Lower Decks episode ) but in the wider canon of Trek DS9 has remained quite ignored. That’s why it deserves a sequel series now, a reappraisal of the series would drive audiences to the original series and would allow them to realize the excellent quality of the show’s ahead-of-its-time writing. With the series completed and now available on streaming, there’s never been a better time to watch it. With Star Trek experiencing a modern-day revitalization thanks to successful series like Strange New Worlds and Lower Decks , it’s important to recognize exactly what we left behind with Deep Space Nine .

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Alex Kurtzman: Discussions Have Been Had About Bringing Back ‘Star Trek: Deep Space Nine’ Characters

| July 29, 2022 | By: Anthony Pascale 230 comments so far

Our final update regarding the big Star Trek Universe panel at San Diego Comic-Con focuses on one legacy show that hasn’t got a lot of attention in the new Star Trek shows on Paramount+, Star Trek: Deep Space Nin e.

Bringing back DS9 characters?

Picard will be connecting even more characters from Star Trek: The Next Generation and at least two characters from Voyager are appearing on Star Trek: Prodigy , but Deep Space Nine has not been getting the same level of attention in the 24th-century Trek shows. One upcoming exception came from the Comic-Con trailer for Lower Decks, which revealed the show will visit the station in season 3 . and the panel with showrunner Mike McMahan promising “you might see some friendly faces in there.”

Deep Space Nine in Lower Decks S3 trailer

During the Q&A at Comic-Con, a fan asked executive producer Alex Kurtzman if there have been any discussions about “looking again at [DS9] and bringing us up to date on those characters.” Kurtzman was careful in his answer but did reveal there has been some talk about the show:

I’m trying to answer your question without revealing anything. I think you’re always having conversations about the history of Star Trek. And obviously, Sisko is a critical, critical figure for everybody. So conversations definitely have been had.

In addition to saying there have been discussions about DS9, Kurtzman’s comment about not “revealing anything” indicates there is at least something coming related to DS9 beyond what was shown for Lower Decks . A good guess might be a visit with one or more characters from the series during the third season of Picard , which has been hinted at by showrunner Terry Matalas. Michael Dorn’s Worf will be on the show, of course, and yes, he was a main character for a good part of DS9, but that’s not likely to be what Matalas meant, as Worf is there as part of Picard’s TNG sendoff season.

Kurtzman went on to explain what it would take to revisit DS9 and/or those characters:

What I’ll tell you is that, for us, we don’t want to just launch into something without going, “Oh, we have now a new idea.” A new reason to do it, a way to turn it in a new direction so that it’s not just repeating the thing you’ve seen before, but it’s also honoring the thing that you love. So if we ever do go down that road, other than what we’re already doing on Lower Decks , I think we would all want to make sure that it was coming from that place of being able to tell a new story while honoring the old one.

So it doesn’t sound like Deep Space Nine will be a big factor in either of the two Star Trek shows that Kurtzman said were currently in development . And for what it’s worth, the show is getting some big attention from IDW Publishing, who announced a new ongoing Star Trek comic book series that will focus on Sisko returning from the Bajoran wormhole after the DS9 series finale.

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There’s little that could be done to improve on DS9, so outside of a couple of legacy characters showing up somewhere that are still in the service, I’d say don’t bother.

NBC’s Battlestar Galactica reboot seems to have died on the vine (I’m sure someone will correct me if I’m mistaken about that). I’m good with that, for the same reason. Ron Moore’s BSG was damn close to perfection, so don’t mess with it.

I find myself in complete agreement and total disagreement with you simultaneously.

Phil, your Ron Moore BSG comparison kind of unintentionally proves the opposite of you your suggestion here, since it already was a new version of an existing BSG series from 25 years before?

So why shouldn’t DS9 get that second series 25 later just like BSG did, as you unintentionally point out here?

BSG was a complete reboot of a crappy show. In general I prefer reboots to bad projects rather than reboots of good projects. Of course, that is not an absolute. Just a generalization.

Nah, the original series was actually pretty good for 70’s TV series, and had a ton of fans. If not, it would never have been rebooted.

I was the prime age for digging BSG back in the late 70’s. (Early teens) And I just saw it as a very sad Star Wars rip off. It was truly awful.

Nah, for what it was, it was a good looking series with great TV VFX for it’s day, decent acting, great music and had a solid following that persevered over many years — all of which convinced Universal to eventually reboot it. The only reason it got cancelled was because it was too expensive to produce for a TV series of that time.

It’s fine that you don’t like it though.

The one thing it had going for it was it has a really good opening theme. But while expensive it really didn’t have the viewers. They tried to squeeze it with the cheaper “Galactica: 1980”. But that crashed and burned as well. The reboot wasn’t because Universal wanted to. It was Ron Moore who decided the reboot it in a radically different way. Better. I know there are some who liked it, though.

Galactica 1980 had one great ep with Starbuck and a Cylon trapped on a planet together and needing to cooperate. The rest of the eps were bad.

You are incorrect about it just being Moore wanting to reboot it, as Glen Larson had been working with Universal for several years on a new movie or TV series, but then Moore came in an got the project. So Universal was going to do something — it was not just Moore showing up and pitching this to them cold as you are suggesting.

Oops. Edit.

BSG was perfection right up to the finale but IMO the final few eps kinda dropped the ball.

Yeah… The finale was amazingly predictable. But there are far worse finales out there.

Do you know that a Babylon 5 reboot is in the pipeline? Wouldn’t it be insane if let’s say DS9 got a modern version at the same time?! With the history, the shows share, it would cause a lot of internet drama.

But in all seriousness, the B5 reboot will be helmed by J.M. Strazincky, and I have big hopes for it, but for DS9 I would wish for a continuation with the OG writers like they did break the 8th season in the doc What we left behind. It looks like Kurtzman is open to a lot of things these days, kinda looks like they figured it out the hard way, that you need to work with what came before in Trek to have the fan base onboard.

Yea, but it’s going to be on the CW, which is a red flag for me. But I am hoping for the best.

I remember fondly when DS9 and B5 were on at the same time in the 90’s for a number of years — that was such a great time to be a sf fan.

I would actually like to see a BSG-type reboot for Space:1999… of course they would have to change the title to Space:2099 or something. But it would be interesting to see what someone else could do with it in this day and age.

I always found Brooks acting curious. Not as wooden as Frakes but definitely very strange. Not that DS9 ever hooked me. B5 was by far the better show.

It was never a competition for me, both of those shows knocked it out of the park.

Agreed. It was so awesome to have new eps of both shows airing for that several year period!

I’ve always thought of both of them as comparable. It was a good time to be a fan of space based sci-fi.

It sure was. Star Trek in particular. I’m a TOS guy but I still consider the 90’s to be the Golden Age of Star Trek. Plenty of decent series’ and feature films at the same time. It’s never been better than that.

Yea, until the second half of the 90’s anyway when you could start to see the Berman era getting too comfortable and formulaic with Voyager…that mediocre series that was definitely a step down from TNG and DS9, and it was the harbinger of the disaster that was looming at the turn of the century with Insurrection, Enterprise and Nemesis — the three headed disaster that nearly killed the franchise.

I think what halted things was the dreaded franchise fatigue. It does exist. Not sure how Marvel is getting around it. Every movie they make is practically the same movie yet they still make millions. But Trek not being nearly as popular did indeed suffer from it. When Voyager ended I thought it would be a good idea to go a year or two before starting another series. But Enterprise did come and I feel like setting it in the time frame it was was a good idea and made it feel fresh. Nemesis suffered from the glut of Trek as well as a lack of promotion.

I feel the same way. I was loving Trek all the way through the end of Voyager. By the time Enterprise started, unlike you I wasn’t feeling it because it was a prequel (never liked the idea) and I thought the show was boring first season and gave up. But I also thought DS9 was boring its first season too. Honestly I was kind of tired of Trek by then BUT if I liked Enterprise more at the time I would’ve kept watching.

You know my feelings on Nemesis but after I saw that movie I felt Star Trek definitely needed a break lol. But on the TV side, they should’ve waited a few years before Enterprise came on. I think it was just too much.

Funny you mentioned that. After seeing the overated Dr. Strange movie this Spring, I passed on the new Thor, and I’ve kind of decided to skip Marvel movies going forward. Might make an exception for GOTG 3, but that’s about it.

OMG, don’t get me wrong as I love Frakes, but comparing Brooks acting to Frakes is like comparing Steak to Spam. LOL

Avery Brooks is a fascinating actor with a unique blend of stoical naturalism and expressive theatricality. Definitely unusual for mass market television of the 1990s, so “strange” is one way to put it.

Speaking of acting, I’ve never gotten past the pilot of Babylon 5 due in part to the acting and direction, which to be nice could be called “campy,” but might be more accurately called atrocious. Don’t tell me… it really picks up in season 3 when Lorne Greene and Grace Lee Whitney show up as part of The Boron Arc. To be clear, I’m willing to overlook the Atari graphics and shoddy production value that made it look cheap even in 1995.

Well that was a rather misguided decision by you, because the predominant acting issue with the pilot was the wooden actor in the lead role, who they then replaced with Boxliter for every subsequent episode.

Whoops! :-))

Woops for you! They replaced O’Hare at the end of season 1 not because of his acting but because of his psychotic mental state that meant he couldn’t work anymore.

Which of course is why they brought him back for two episodes the following year and while he also was on the Cosby show and episodes of law and order right afterwards. Sure there were some reports talking about what you suggested, but everyone who watched the show knows his wooden performance was the reason he absolutely had to get replaced.

Boxliter is a superior actor and MJS jumped at the chance to bring him in. If they wanna hide behind that excuse, so be it, but we all know why it had to happen.

Lorne Greene and Grace Lee Whitney ?!?! When did they appear in Babylon 5??

Beware of “genius reviewers” here who see one ep of a multi-year series and then show up here to make fun of the series and tell us all it it sucks because of their opinion of one ep. That’s both moronic and intellectually bankrupt.

You are not alone friend. Brooks liked to ham it up, I thought he was fantastic as the ”Bond villain” in that episode I can’t remember it’s name for that reason. It suited him perfectly. He’s acting style was strange indeed(and not a good strange)

100% disagree. DS9 is brilliant so is Avery Brooks. He is my favourite captain on par with Patrick Stewart’s original Picard. Never watched or cared for Babylon 5 but I doubt strongly it is even in the same solar system as DS9. Now that I speak of it, indeed I saw some episodes. I found them ridiculous.

Well, it is IP. Of course there’s always going to be discussions about using it again, again, and again. It’s what these big companies do. Just like there will always be discussions within McDonald’s about bringing back the McRib.

Having said that, I wouldn’t mind a taste of DS9 again. It was a great show, mostly.

And by “taste” I mean something limited like an old TV reunion movie*, which is what Star Trek: Picard should have been all along, in my opinion.

*Just not terrible like those reunion movies from the 80s and 90s, okay. I’m still trying to forget A Very Brady Christmas.

What, you didn’t like “Rescue from Gilligan’s Island”?

Ha, I saw that one too! But the only thing I really remember about it is Gilligan telling everyone about this ‘Star Wars’ movie he saw. That, and don’t they end up on the island again? It’s fate, I tell ya.

Those reunion TV movies are awful

Yeah, I said that. Which ones did you watch?

I would love for Ben Sisko to “return” on The Orville and see Dr. Finn and say something like, “Cassie? Is that you??”

Suppressing my gag reflex with that thought…..

Not Ben Sisko but I would love to see Avery Brooks on the Orville.

I don’t want to revisit DS9 unless it’s written/run by Ira Behr.

100% this! Wouldn’t that be ideal.

I just realized that Ira Steven Behr is almost 70 years old. So I’m not sure he’d want to go through all the stress of running a TV show again. However, looking at IMDB page, he seems to have taken an executive producer’s position on a new scifi series that hasn’t been released yet. On the one hand, that suggests he hasn’t retired. On the other hand, his involvement in that shows probably reduces the chance of him taking on something based on DS9.

68 years old, wow!!!

Next thing you know we will have and 80+ year old leading one of the new series’. That’s not gonna happen. Just retire already.

That goes without saying! 100000000% agree!

If I never see that guy’s stupid goatee again, it’ll be fine by me.

Meh. If girls can dye their hair purple guys can dye their goatees purple

Yeah … if they should learn anything from the debacles Picard Season one and two were, it’s that you really shouldn’t touch legacy characters unless you have someone there, who actually knows how to write them. He doesn’t have to run the project but have him be a consultant that has the power to veto really bad ideas. Maybe let him pick the writing staff.

I really wish SNW had a consultant with veto power.

Agree 100%. Ira Steven and the lead writers / producers of DS9 were brilliant. Under immense stress, time pressure and limited budget they managed to write 26 mostly great episodes! Nowadays they can’t even manage to write 10 decent episodes even though they have „unlimited“ resources and a lot of artistic freedom.

Sad but true. DS9 had TWICE the episodes shows like Discovery and Picard has and yet it run circles around them. When it got very serialized in the end, the show was mesmerizing to watch and the Dominion war went on for 5 seasons (although they didn’t really declare war until the end of season 5).

I just don’t understand how you can only produce 10-13 episodes a season like PIC and DIS does and yet half of them still feel like complete filler? It boggles the mind.

DS9 had TWICE the episodes shows like Discovery and Picard has and yet it run circles around them.

As well as SNW…

DS9 is my favorite of the new-Trek Berman shows. I wouldn’t say the episodes were “mostly great”. Like my favorite, TOS, there are still a lot of dog episodes there. That’s to be expected. But the ratio of good to bad episodes on DS9 was pretty darn good. And like you said, they were creating 25-26 episodes a season! 2.5 times more than the current nu-Trek gives us. Yet somehow they were able to more consistently produce better content than the group that has no deadlines, nearly unlimited resources and supposedly “artistic” freedom like you said. The one and only one aspect the new shows do better than the older ones is in SPFX. This current crop of Trek writers and producers I guess one might say they have an edge in production design but if so it is a slight one. I shudder to think what this group could create if they were given 12 weeks to write 10 new episodes.

I consider the story of DS9 to be finished. It is unnecessary to bring anyone back. It’s a series I prefer to be left alone.

I 2nd that. I fear it would just ruin a good thing.

In hindsight, I think bringing Sisko back might be a mistake if only because he’s just too serious of a character. He is the most serious and tortured of all the Star Trek characters. But Bashir with his lightheartedness would be wonderful. Vic Fontaine being the ageless hologram that is all about entertainment like the LDS crew would fit in perfectly. Ditto with quark. Might be nice to see the current state of the Ferengi with Negas Rom.

Depending on how they’re bringing him back it would really undermine the Ending of DS9, which was very important to Avery Brooks. In the original draft he just left after a short goodbye. But he insisted to have an I’ll be back line in there (don’t remember the actual line) because he didn’t want to play into the stereotype of black fathers leaving their families.

So having a story, where he was gone for 30 years wouldn’t work.

IIRC the line was something along the lines of of maybe I’ll be back in a year, maybe I’ll be back yesterday. It spoke to the fact that Sisko’s life was not linear and he could exist at any point at any time.

In Universe, yes. But it was put in vor a very real world reason.

I honestly don’t have too much of an issue if Bashir or Jake Sisko show up on Picard or some other show of the right time frame. Just don’t want to see a DS9 centered show. I feel that has been done.

I dunno. The story of the Dominion war is certainly finished. But there is still a very big whole in Trek canon such has how the Federation, and Bajor and DS9 in particular, recovered from the War. I think it might be nice to see that. How did the entire Alpha quadrant get from the point of the end of the Dominion War to the point where Romulus blew up (not that they are related)

Whatever Avery Brooks agrees to do, if he does, will be good. Might not be perfect, but it will be good. And a huge win to get Brooks back to add more to the mythos of “The Sisko.” What happened to him? Kassidy Yates and their daughter? Jake, the writer? What does a human being in 2500 do with a deeply spiritual identity?

Seems to me there is a very good chance Michelle Forbes and Nana Visitor will return in PICARD or LOWER DECKS. A nice setup for the next story about the Bajorans, setting an ideal setting for a season of an 2500 anthology series after PICARD… Sisko, Kira, Janeway, Seven, Chakotay, etc …. Even Elnor and Geordi’s daughter. Lots of potential.

I think Avery Brooks is done with acting. He didn’t even record any new material for the DS9 documentary being happy for them to use previous interviews. I don’t think it’s down to any issues with being a part of Trek but more just wanting to enjoy other aspects of life and feeling like he’s said everything that needs to be said.

It might sound mean but I like to believe Ro is dead or in jail. Not that I have anything against Ro. But she was a Maquis VOY tells us those who weren’t lucky enough to be arrested were all wiped out. and I kinda hate it when all of our heroes always magically survive or are forgiven.

Tasha and Jadzia died because the actors left. Trip died because the show ended and Bragga was bored. Spock died and immediately came back (Thank God). Tasha came back with yesterdays enterprise and Sela. Jadzia sorta came back with Ezri. Someone needs to die and stay dead.

Everyone comes back. Just ask Shaxs.

The Return of The Sisko!? Benjamin deserves a movie, no less.

And please, the original creative team has to be onboard. Ira Steven Behr and his favorite writers. I know it could be possible.

The unfortunate truth is that AFAIK Avery Brooks doesn’t want to come back. He is done with Hollywood and happy teaching. To quote somewhat StarTrek VI he’s done his bit for king and country.

I have a feeling he will return if certain conditions are met.

I just hope Kurtzman don’t replace him with a new actor.

Rene and Aron I understand. But Avery, his return to the franchise will be a big surprise.

It seems likely that Kurtzman is mostly referring to the Lower Decks DS9 episode which will certainly see some voice cameos, not to mention some cameos on Picard S3 (excluding O’Brien sadly). As for bringing back DS9 a’la Picard, I think that is unlikely, if not impossible to do so in a satisfying way. We’ve lost some key actors, and Brooks has gone into seclusion and is very unlikely to return to the roll outside of perhaps a voice cameo (which alone would be remarkable). If there is ever a Voyager reunion show, which I think is more likely, some of the DS9 characters could be part of that story.

But I can’t help but feel that “Picard” has shown me that revisiting these shows and characters isn’t as rewarding as I hoped, with a few exceptions here and there. I’m hoping S3 of Picard makes me feel differently, but they just haven’t handled this well. They really need the original producers and writers for shows like this. That’s why I prefer they just stick to what they’ve been better at, making their own shows from scratch.

Honestly, I would be WAY WAY happier with a DS9 and Voyager HD/4K restoration.

I agree with you 100% about Picard. It hasn’t been a great return at all frankly. HOWEVER I will say people have responded to all the legacy characters well, from the Rikers to Q and of course Seven of Nine. They have all gotten pretty big fanfare on the show and any issues about them are not the characters just the writing of them. But I think the people making these shows sees the positive wave of fanfare every time a legacy character is announced. And I wouldn’t be surprised episodes when they first appear in gets the bigger spikes for views or rewatches. I didn’t love season one of Picard at all, but I rewatched Nepenthe about six times now.

I think Picard season 3 will be the ultimate test because it’s really the first of these shows that is bringing the entire cast from a previous show back and they know this has to be REALLY good. And a lot of people from the behind the scenes of TNG, DS9, VOY etc are back for this season (but sadly none of the writers). So I think it’s going to feel the closest to TNG era than the first two seasons of Picard certainly did. Fingers crossed anyway.

I don’t need a DS9 revival show or anything but I do want to see DS9 characters part of future shows the same way we have TOS characters in the Pike show. I don’t want a TOS revival show either but I hope the characters stick around in future projects. I assume that will be the case for TNG era characters going forward as we are already seeing in PRO, LDS and PIC.

Picard has a few invaluable episodes and scenes that are among my favorite in all of Star Trek, Nepenthe and the first 3 episodes of Season 2 (which is why the failure of the season was so crushing). And then there are a few scenes and moments that are incredible, including the Data and Q farewell scenes. I’m holding some skepticism for season 3 because I fear they won’t have enough story or budget to pull this off in a satisfying way, but I have faith in Terry Matalas. But I’ve also come to the conclusion that while I love Disco and SNW, I don’t find it nearly as must-watch as something like Picard or even LD. I’m much more invested in that universe and those characters so I’m there on the dot when the new episodes publish, not necessarily so with SNW even if I think it’s a better show. It’s a strange realization that only streaming could reveal ;)

So sure, if you were to ask me what I would want to see most, nostalgia bait will always work for me, even if I think they seldom make great shows.

I think we are in total agreement! ;)

I agree Picard definitely has some great episodes, no doubt. In fact I rewatched the first episode of season 2, Star Gazer two days ago. That is a fantastic episode and what convinced a lost of us season 2 was going to make up for season 1 if you thought that season sucked. Sadly it was not to be. But yeah, there are definitely some strong moments and probably a good half dozen episodes out of both seasons I could happily rewatch. But again, being so serialized just makes it hard.

Of course I’m still very cautious about season 3 now too. I was one of the people singing Matalas praise when I heard he was creating season 2. But it sounds like it’s season 3 that is telling the story he really wants and he’s the sole show runner this time so we’ll see. They sadly only have one last time to get it right.

And while I do like SNW a lot, for me I too am more interested in the 24th/25th century era of shows and where I’m more focused on because the mythology and legacy characters of that era is so much greater you can play with. And since PIC is a sequel to that era you can still do anything you want with it. The idea of going back to the ramifications of the Dominion War 20 years after the fact which we will see in Picard is something fans wanted to see for years now.

I think SNW is good so far, but it’s still a prequel at the end of the day so there are still story telling limits of what they can do. But it can flesh out the 23rd century a bit more like they are doing with the Gorn. And also with TOS characters pre-TOS, which is a lot of fun so far.

But the problem is that the ONLY parts people have responded well too are the legacy characters. So far minus seven that makes up like 20% of Picard, most of which is Brent Spiner who isn’t even data.

Granted that will change in season 3 to be sure. But more important than the characters being there is how they interact with each other no how they are written. What remains to be seen is if this new production and writing staff can recreate the magic of TNG with our beloved character acting the way they did when Ron Moore et all were writing for them? Because all I have seen so far is *hugs* miss the old days or *stop being an ahole Jean Luc*

I don’t want good old days talk or stop being mean to the android. I want ENGAGE

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I agree of course. I’m not saying show casing legacy characters was enough for the show, it clearly wasn’t. Only saying it proved how much fans really wanted to see them again so not surprised why season 3 has become what it is. The reality is they (CBS) probably wanted it to be a TNG revival show all along because they knew it would create more excitement with the fanbase; but it still doesn’t mean it would be good. Hopefully it will be though.

But that’s another thing, according to one of the people who watched season 3, they DO act like their old selves and in fact says Picard acts and feels like old Picard himself. He hated how Picard was portrayed in the first two seasons and that in this one he is more commanding and decisive. That’s partly made me a little more excited that Picard doesn’t just feel like a bumbling grandpa like I feel he’s been.

I hope Season 3 is just footage of the other actors, in full makeup and costume, slapping Stewart for dragging everyone into whatever he thinks Picard is.

Also, let’s think about how all the TOS movie time in total is about 12 hours. And half of those movies aren’t that great.

They actually aren’t better at making Trek shows from scratch. They are just as bad at it.

I agree. Picard has been a complete disappointment. The direction Jean-Luc Picard when is something that is so out of character for the man, that it’s not believable.

The story for Season 1 was horrible, followed up by a equality horrible season 2. While I think there was some good story in the ravel about his mother, that too was hard to swallow. Are we to believe that in the 24th Century one would not become aware of the suicide of their mother as Starfleet Security did their background cheeks on academy applications?

Add in that they went out of their way to unnecessary kill of characters, it was just a bad two season. There was no reason till kill Maddox, and frankly, when the producers failed to get the original actor back, they should have abandoned using him as a character. The recast Icheb, and then killed him a a middle finger to the original actor because they did not like his politics. They killed Hugh for no reason at all. They created and killed a Riker/Troi child with a stupid storyline, again for no reason. They offed Chabon off-screen in Season 2 for no reason.

Just horrible.

I do have high hopes for season 3.

This is clearly just second information but apparently some people have already seen a rough cut of season 3 and according to some it is a night and day difference to the first two seasons. And one of the people who supposedly seen it hated the first two seasons as well. So that gives me some hope we are in for a better season just beyond seeing Geordi and Worf again. But this person has said it’s really the best of everything when we think of TNG and Star Trek in general so I’m getting more excited about it.

But I also agree, I think what put off fans about season one was killing off so many characters. It’s a show you obviously have to have stakes involved but to kill off so many legacy characters and in such half hearted ways like Hugh and Maddox made people more upset than anything.

It’s exactly why so many hated Generations. If you’re going to kill off Kirk, the most iconic character in the franchise, you have to do it in a way that feels earned and not just to do it. Same issue with Data in Nemesis. Same issue with Trip in These Are The Voyages. People hate a lot of these stories for good reason, but a big part of is just killing off beloved characters. And why season one of Picard got a lot of hate on top of everything else.

Yikes. I hope you are right tiger but I heard the same of season 2. And to be fair season 1 and season 2 we’re night and day different. But that didn’t make s2 better past the first 2 eps.

As for killing off characters in Trek, Trek has a BAD record with this. They’ve done it justice once and only once with Spock. But to be fair, when they did it right, MAN did they do it right!

but when they didn’t?

tasha, meaningless death.

jadzia. Meaningless death.

Trip. Braga threw the die.. again meaningless and pointless.

at least SNW gives death meaning. Unless S2 changes that.

Hope I’m right too! But with season 2 everyone who saw it advanced only got the first three episodes IIRC. And those were at least decent. Episode 3 dropped but I think people just told themselves it will pick up quickly after that..it didn’t. ;)

Tasha and Jadzia wasn’t great either but those were actors leaving the show so they had to move on from them. And I didn’t like how Hemmer was killed in SNW either. It really weakened the show but I’m willy to see who they replace him with. Grateful it’s not with Scotty at least.

I still don’t consider Icheb a “beloved” character. Or that other one or two episode guy whose name I don’t even recall. I think we kinda knew Kirk was going to eat it in Generations. They didn’t handle that very well but I will say this… What we ended up with was much better than the original version the test audiences absolutely hated. I saw it. It was just awful. And I still think it salvaged by the line “It was… Fun.” I thought the Data end made plenty of sense. Data’s journey could only go so far. And it very much looked like he grew as far as he possibly could and his last action was the totally human sacrifice to save the crew. Trip was a symptom of a bigger problem. A lot of problems with TATV and the Trip death just added to that pile.

Lastly, I’ve heard past stories of people who have seen early episodes of these shows before they are streamed to all who have claimed they’ve been really solid. Thus far, none of them have been correct. So I’m really not interested in what those who have seen it already say. I am thinking people that say that are just Paramount plants trying to drum up interest.

Hey, I never said Icheb either. ;)

But I think many do love the character because there was so much outraged seeing him die, but it was probably just how brutal he was killed off too. The character was back on screen after 20 years to basically be tortured and killed. I think that was the instance the show was starting to lose people.

We agree with most of the other stuff although I didn’t love how Data was killed and had problems with it. But it wasn’t that bad, I think people A. hated Data was killed and B. he didn’t get to say goodbye the way Spock did in TWOK. But it was 100 times better than Kirk’s death. I like Generatios in general but so much of that movie just makes no sense.

And I’ve already said people who saw ‘past shows’ of Picard only saw the first 2-3 episodes. I read or watched nearly every review of the first two seasons of Picard I could get my hands on at the time and it was only the first 3 episodes in both seasons, which most of us loved too or at least thought it was decent before things really went downhill. That’s why the critic reviews for Picard and Discovery are so high but the audience ratings are so low because the critics are only going on the opening episodes where the rest are judging the entire season.

In this case, some people got to watch all of season 3. So they are judging it by the entire season for a change. Of course you can still not agree with them but it’s a different situation. And one of the people who I know watched it is Robert Meyer Burnett. I have no idea if you know who he is but take my word for it, he is NOT a fan lol. This guy is a bigger hater of Secret Hideout than you are. He’s hated all the Kelvin movies and every new show including SNW. He thought Picard has been some of the worst Star Trek that has existed and considers it his worst show in the franchise. He gave up on Discovery by season 2 because he thinks everything about that show is plain dumb. So for him to like season 3 of Picard is pretty eye opening since this guy has been dogging all things NuTrek for over a decade now. Of course it’s still just his opinion but the season really won him over. I have my issues with modern Trek and certainly Picard but generally like most of it, so I’m hoping I can be won over like him since Picard is still my least favorite.

I’m still surprised at the negative reaction to Icheb’s fate, myself. I thought it was a rare good creative decision on the part of the writers. 7 needed motivation. Icing Icheb was the obvious and best choice to provide it particularly in the way they did it. The only better choices available would have been Janeway or the Doctor. The Dr can’t die, being a program and all, and no way was anything like that ever going to happen to Janeway.

Regarding Data’s demise… Both your theories sound plausible to me. Especially the annoyance that Data didn’t get a “final moment” with Picard or Geordi like Spock had with Kirk. That one really rings true to me as I have found that many TNG fans come across as a bit envious of TOS when it comes to the feature films. Spock got a better death scene and TOS got the better finale. Which is also where the concept of “we need to give TNG a ‘proper’ goodbye’ comes from. To me, if they did give that to Data it would have felt like it was copying that Kirk-Spock moment in WoK. They needed to do their own thing. And I really liked that Data said nothing to Picard. Uttering only “goodbye” when he fired the phaser. I feel like the look they shared said everything that needed to be said.

Regarding the idea that a person who has not liked anything made by Secret Hideout was good with Picard S3 has liked what he saw… I guess that could be a good thing. But I still have learned my lesson. I do not give two sh!ts what anyone or anything says about a Secret Hideout show before it streams any longer. I cannot trust anything. Secret Hideout has lost all benefit of the doubt after what they did with SNW. At this point I’m thinking that if they make anything even mediocre it’s by pure accident. It feels like to me they aren’t even TRYING to make decent Trek. Yes, I know. They are but that reality only makes things worse.

For people worried that DS9 characters was getting the shaft on the new shows versus the TOS, TNG and VOY characters will probably feel a lot more happy in the next few years. DS9 being my favorite Trek show by far, I think those characters are about to get a big resurgence soon. Obviously some will appear in Lower Deck soon but it sounds like there are bigger plans going forward.

I think we will see a few of them next season on Picard too. Matalas dropped a nice bit of news a few days ago that when we see Worf again, his story line will heavily be involved with the Dominion war! That alone got a HUGE smile out of me. But I wouldn’t be surprised he’s possibly with 1 or 2 of his DS9 crew mates as well. It would be a little odd if the season involves the Dominion war but no one else from DS9 is part of it. Prepared to be wrong but really hope I’m not!

Either way it’s just great to see this era of Star Trek and characters all roaring back again! The 25th century era is what I’m most excited about going forward because the potential is there to use legacy characters and story lines we haven’t had in 20 years.

I’d love to see some form of DS9 revival as we are seeing TNG and Voyager get brought back via Picard and Prodigy.

Avery Brooks’ apparently permanent retirement from screen acting leaves a major hole in doing that, although with such a rich ensemble you could probably build a worthwhile project around Kira, Bashir, et al.

Sisko and Odo would need to be recast, and if you’re taking a deep dive into secondary characters, so would Nog.

Odo being a changling is an easier recast but I personally don’t see a reason to recast any of the characters. Whilst it would be great to see Sisko back his story does already have an ending so if Brooks doesn’t want to be part of a potential revival then simply don’t include him. Likewise Odo got an ending too and given the size of the extended DS9 cast and the likelihood that we’d also be getting introduced to new characters it’s unlikely we will get to see all of them return anyway. Therefore there’s simply no need to include Nog, just find a way to honour his legacy.

Definitely agree! And I been one of the people who thinks Brook’s time with Star Trek was done but now I’m coming around he may in fact be coming back. Probably not in Lower Decks or Picard but future shows feels like a bigger possibility now. They know how much the fanbase wants to see Sisko back or at the very least bring him back into the fold. So maybe he may show up at some point.

But if not, as you said there is still a huge amount of characters they can use for future shows like Dad, Kira, O’Brien, Bashir, Garek and on and on. The possibilities are endless.

How could you recast such pivotal characters and don’t you think the other cast would have something to say about that? Avery Brooks hasn’t done much screen acting since finishing DS9 and he didn’t record any new material for the DS9 documentary. I think the chances of convincing him to come out of retirement are unlikely. But it would be great to get some of the other characters.

I didn’t say anything about recasting anyone David. I assume all those characters would be played by their original actors unless the actors just don’t want to come back or something.

I don’t think Brooks is a guarantee or anything. I fully agree he’s probably still one of the hardest to convince to come back. But we could’ve said the same thing about Stewart and Mulgrew as well and they are now both back. They talked Nimoy out of retirement to play Spock again. Have to give it to Kurtzman, he has a pretty good track record getting a lot of these people back. He probably just guarantees a ridiculous amount of money at them but hey it’s working lol.

Oh and ‘Dad’ was supposed to be ‘Dax’ lol. Just in case people are confused.

I did. I find it a bit presumptuous to assume all you need to do is wave a red jumpsuit and throw some Benjamins Avery Brooks way, and he’s going to come a-running. Rene Auberjonois and Aron Eisenberg have found their way to Sto-Vo-Kor, so there’s that. Jadzia was killed off. I’m sorry, but a DS9 reunion is really going to be contrived. There may be a reason Ira Stephen Behr isn’t attached.

First off, I mostly agree with you. As I said I don’t think Brooks is begging to come back to Star Trek. I have been saying that for a long long time now. Until THIS article, I was convinced we would never see Brooks as Sisko again and we still may not. But there could still be talks behind the scenes that they are interested in bringing him back and how that can be done. But it doesn’t mean he will be back.

But then look at Patrick Stewart. He has said in past interviews he turned down many ideas for years from others who wanted him to play Picard again after Nemesis (I would love to know what so of those other ideas were ;)). But of course someone FINALLY convinced him to come back in 2018. It took nearly 20 years but it happened. So you never know right? Kurtzman seems to have a way of convincing these people to come back since he and Bob Orci got Nimoy to come back for the Kelvin movies and later Stewart and Mulgrew for their new shows.

But I also think there are two different track of discussions happening. One side, like me, is just suggesting we will see more DS9 characters in the future on other shows or spin offs. I think that’s all Kurtzman is suggesting like how we seen TOS, TNG and VOY characters show up on other shows. But then there is the other group suggesting we’re getting a DS9 reunion which I don’t think is the case at all. So I don’t think you have to worry about that.

But of course this is par for the course when it comes to this stuff. It was the same thing when Kurtzman suggested we would see more crossovers in future shows which to me just meant we could see Burnham show up on Picard or SNW or something. But to others that meant “WE’RE GETTING AN AVENGERS LEVEL STORY LINE!!!!!!” Um…maybe, but the guy didn’t say that lol. And of course the first crossover happening is just a few characters from LDS going to SNW just like similar crossovers we saw in the 90s.

I think the same mentality is happening here. I don’t think Kurtzman is saying anything more than they would like to see a few DS9 characters back in future shows. MAYBE one could have their own spin off like Picard or Janeway but it would be more of a direction like what they are doing with Janeway in Prodigy. Maybe Bashir will come back in a Section 31 show or something completely different.

For all we know, the DS9 story we’re getting in LDS may be the one and only time we’ll ever see those characters on the station again. So I wouldn’t over think it…at least not yet. ;)

As for Brooks and Sisko, he may just be asking the guy to show up in one episode of a show IF they are talking at all. It doesn’t mean he wants him to lead a new show or anything so who knows? But if they did pull a miracle and got Brooks back to play Sisko again, even just as a one time deal, that would still be an exciting day!

I have no special insight whatsoever but my gut tells me that Brooks is done with it for good. Which is fine as I really like the completed Sisko story and like Kirk, consider his book closed. And Mulgrew and Stewart were just an offer away from returning to those parts. I also feel that Bakula would do it in a heartbeat provided he had time from his other work.

Again could be true. The thing about Star Trek is that pretty much every main character on every show has made an appearance somewhere else when asked. The ONLY main actor from a show (that I know of) that has turned down all offers to be on other shows or films was Nichelle Nichols. She turned down offers having roles in Voyager and Generations. But as far as I know every other actor from TOS to VOY at least has taken something when offered. Doesn’t mean everything, but something. Stewart has turned down offers to play Picard in the past after Nemesis, but yes someone finally convinced him to come back (for better or worse ;)).

But maybe Brooks will follow Nichols lead as the second actor to turn down any roles outside of DS9.

Well… They could reuse Dax with anyone but Terry Farrell is likely out with Jadzia being dead and all. And I think it’s a bit of a stretch to bring back yet another person from the dead. Or will they go the evil twin route again?

I was suggesting Erzi Dax. ;)

See above 😁

They could reuse Terry Farrel if Ezri has one of those rituals where she visits her pst lives

Just my opinion, but seeing them show up on Lower Decks in some comedic fashion is not all that compelling to me. Just fan service on steroids.

Yeah I know your opinion on Lower Decks lol. But I think it’s going to be tons of fun to see them on the show. I got goosebumps just seeing the station in the trailer. And they may not all be comedic but I’m OK if they are. It’s still nuts LDS is the show that will have two big crossovers this year.

You are correct, mainly because LDX is nothing but fan service on steroids. It’s all they do.

I’ll happily keep taking those steroids! ;D

I dunno if you remember but up until SNW I felt that other than Spock (the ambassador of all shows Trek) TOS has gotten the shaft in new trek. A constitution class uss janeway? Seriously?! Ok. anyways…

DS9 has been seriously been under utilized and I totally agree with that. And I can’t wait for DS9 the station to come to LDS. Having said that, I’m not sure LDS is the best show for it unless you are using lighthearted characters like Bashir or Vic Fontaine. Kira and esp Sisko are just to serious for a show like that.

as much as I do not like DISCO, I would like to see the status of the gem quadrant and the station I the 2nd century. Are they are stupidly technologically backwards as the federation is? Or is that just an alpha quadrant thing?

I thought TOS was represented plenty in the first two seasons of Discovery. The other shows a little less because it’s been a century later so naturally the focus won’t be as high. That’s sort of how it was in the older 24th century shows too. But even all of those generally hailed them as iconic. And LDS actually mentions TOS a lot. It’s a big reason I love that show so much. But now that we have SNW and half the TOS cast is on that show, you no longer have to worry about that. ;)

Yeah can not WAIT to see DS9 on Lower Decks. We knew it was coming because McMahan said awhile ago DS9 characters were coming on the show next season. I just didn’t expect to see the station itself. And it’ll be fine. I pointed this out in another thread, DS9 is a serious show but it also had most of the comedic and light hearted episodes in the franchise. There is way more comedic episodes in DS9 than there were in TNG and VOY. Most of them were Quark episodes but DS9 has proven the characters can be comedic fodder when a story calls for it. Every episode is not always The Visitor, In the Pale Moonlight or Far Beyond the Stars. There is also episodes like Our Man Bashir, Bada-Bing, Bada-Bang, In the Cards and Take Me Out to the Holosuite among others. DS9 can let its hair down from time to time so not worried if it’s more a comedic or lighter side of the show.

And I trust McMahan 100% so excited to see how they pull it off!

Very Interesting 🤔 what Alex Kurtzman said about Deep Space Nine. Notice how he specifically mentioned Sisko? I think they’re talking to Avery Brooks about coming back and playing Captain Sisko one more time. Since the comics are considered canon now since April 2019 and Trekmovie has even pointed out how the new Star Trek comic tells the story of Captain Sisko’s return from the Wormhole, I think we’re gonna see the on screen return of Benjamin Sisko real soon.

My theory is that Alex Kurtzman wants to do a Picard-type show for ALL of the Star Trek Captains. So I think we’ll get Star Trek: Janeway, Star Trek: Sisko, Star Trek: Archer, and the last one will be Star Trek: Kirk (since they have to wait a few years for Paul Wesley to be the same age William Shatner was when he played Admiral Kirk.) eventually. And by telling the story of Sisko’s return in the comic first, then they don’t have to go through the baggage of telling it on screen so they can just focus on whatever the story is that will involve Benjamin Sisko in it. I’m all for it 🙂 ❤️!

I’ve wanted to see Avery Brooks on one of these new shows for quite awhile now 🙂. With next year being DS9’s 30th anniversary, I think we’ll get a big announcement then about Captain Sisko and Avery’s return to the role at either Star Trek: Las Vegas or on Star Trek Day. And we may even get an extra gift next year too from Paramount in regards to DS9, the show itself. We may find out next year that Paramount has been working on remastering it and is releasing it during it’s thirtieth anniversary. Paramount remastered First Contact without telling anybody and it was on Paramount+ last month. So they could be working on a DS9 remaster without anyone knowing.

I hope so 🙂🤞. Live long and prosper, Trekmovie 🖖.

Yeah dude I actually thought about you when I saw this news last weekend. I been saying I don’t see Avery Brooks coming back but I might be eating my words. Bringing Brooks back to play Sisko would be just as big of news when Stewart and Mulgrew announced they were coming back. So fingers crossed!

And I would love a Captain’s show! Every year they could do a season with a different captain: Archer, Kirk, Janeway, etc. That would be fun and we know Akiva Goldsman slipped in Archer’s name discussing a potential anthology show so I think a lot of these ideas are being discussed. Whether they will happen or not is a different story but a captain series show highlighting all these legacy characters would be another no-brainer.

Fingers crossed 🤞, Tiger2! And my idea for a Captain show, it’s just logical. You just look at what Kate Mulgrew has said and Alex Kurtzman has hinted at, it just makes sense. Now they might not be called what I called them.

The shows may have different titles. Like the Janeway show? Maybe 🤔 it’s the name of whatever new ship we’re getting this season on Picard? And the same goes for my Sisko show idea?

They’re giving him command of a new ship in the comics called the U.S.S. Theseus. So maybe the show that features Sisko in it will be called Star Trek: Theseus? It would be an apt title where Sisko is concerned 🙂. If you don’t know what I’m talking about, look up Theseus.

I did and that character from Greek mythology perfectly fits Captain Sisko and where he’s at when he takes command of the Theseus. There are endless possibilities for titles for the shows I’m speculating about. I just really have a feeling that we are gonna get a different show for each Captain, eventually. I even read an article with Terry Matalas where he talked about how to bring back Enterprise and now, with Scott Bakula not a part of the Quantum Leap reboot anymore, this idea of Terry Matalas’ might become a reality 🤞.

That was nice what you said about me, that you were thinking about me when you heard this about Avery Brooks. The same thing happened to me 🙂. I was thinking of you because I know you love DS9 and Avery Brooks just as much as I do 🙂. Live long and prosper, Tiger2 🖖.

Yeah I agree with all of this. I think EVERY thing is on the table at this point. They are trying to capture millions of fans who probably rewatch the old shows endlessly these days thanks to streaming and it just makes sense to revisit as many legacy characters as they can. I mean what’s crazy is every legacy captain is part of all these shows now EXCEPT Sisko and Archer. Those are the only two not appearing on any of these new shows and my guess is both of their time is coming. It may not be a captain’s show but I have to think things like that are being considered.

I’m sure I said this to you before but I have a feeling Janeway will be on Picard next season. As you said Mulgrew has been throwing a lot of hints out lately its only a matter of if and not when. Can you imagine a scene where Admiral Janeway is now talking to First Officer Seven?? That would great. Janeway would be a proud mama to see how far Seven has come! And now that Boimler and Mariner are showing up in live action next year, it only accelerates Janeway’s return IMO! ;D

And I looked up Theseus. Yes it fits Sisko for sure lol!

Naming sequel’s after the characters returning seems to be a hollywood thing IMHO. The sequel to cheers was Frasier. The sequel to Friends was Joey. Now the sequel to TNG is Picard.

Well, I’m not the most creative when it comes to titles 🙂. But I did say in one of my above replies that they could even name Sisko’s show after the new ship that he’s getting in the comics, the U.S.S. Theseus. Theseus is from Greek mythology and if you don’t know who he is, you should look him up because Theseus’ description also fits Captain Sisko perfectly. So that name is perfect for Captain Sisko’s ship and maybe even for his show?

After the success of Picard, whether you like it or not is up to you, it looks like Alex Kurtzman wants to do a show now for each of the Captains and that’s why I was playing around with what the show’s titles would look like. Those aren’t the titles they will be but they could be. But a lot of TV shows are just one word. For example : Taxi, Cheers, Seinfeld, M.A.S.H., Bewitched, Hunter, Friends, Moonlighting, Roseanne, Coach, Benson, Soap, etc etc.

So it’s not just sequels to TV shows that are only one word. Sometimes it’s easier to remember a title if it’s only one word. And if it’s just one word, it stands a better chance of getting stuck in your head and you’ll watch it again 🙂. At least that’s my assumption anyways for why there is such a proliferation of one word named TV shows in Hollywood.

Live long and prosper, amirami 🖖.

I agree with you regarding the one word titles. But remember Trek once tried that with Enterprise and they reversed it after 2 seasons. But maybe it would work this time? Who knows. Star Trek was exhausted by that point but is revitalized now. Let’s hope it stays that way!

regarding Sisko and Theseus, it’s certainly an interesting idea. So long as they don’t expect audiences to have read the upcoming comics to understand the story. As I mentioned elsewhere comics rarely remain canon even if they are meant too. Disney threw out everything when they bought Star Wars. The Star Trek 2009 countdown comics were meant to be prime universe canon but other than Spock and the destruction of Romulus everything in ST Picard refutes it.

LLAP good Sir! 🖖

The Star Wars comics that Marvel publishes right now are considered canon by Disney. They have been canon since 2015. The old Star Wars comics before 2015, Legends I believe they call them, are not canon. But there is stuff that happens in the comics that affects the books and they’re even pulling characters from the comics into the Star Wars TV shows now.

The same thing could happen to Star Trek and it might start with this new Sisko comic because he’s got a new ship and a new crew and they wouldn’t be doing all this setup if they didn’t have an endgame in mind. Also, the Picard Countdown comic that came out a couple of years ago in 2020, which Paramount said was canon, was crucial in introducing Laris and Zhaban to Picard and showing how they came to be at Picard’s vineyard when the show began. I mean, you don’t have to read the comics. But, because they’re considered canon now, they just flesh out everything more.

And Sisko’s show may or may not deal with the Theseus because he’s probably retired by 2403 or whenever the show takes place. But there may be characters introduced in this comic that they use on the show, like Star Wars is doing now with their comics. I’m just saying that there is a reason why Paramount is introducing this ship and these characters right now at the same time it’s being rumoured that Avery Brooks is returning to Star Trek. But it’s not required reading and you’re right about that 🙂.

I agree with 100% of everything you have said. All I am saying is till we can slingshot around the sun we don’t know the future. These corporations can be bought. Out or merge or what have you. Money dictates Hollywood and things can change in the future and comics are easier to change than media. I guess I am saying I have been burned by comics one too many times. But that’s just me. Don’t let me wreck it for you. 😁

I don’t think the comics will ever really be considered canon. That’s what the then powers that be said about the Star Trek 2009 countdown comics when they came out. But Picard and it’s own comic prequels completely refute almost everything those previous comics dictate.

The comics published after April 2019 are considered canon by Paramount. The comics published prior to 2019, such as the Countdown comics from 2009, are not canon. The article was on Trekmovie back in 2019 before the Year Five comic came out and people were wondering if that was going to be considered canon or not. Paramount said that it was canon.

That’s when they said that anything published after April 2019 is canon. That’s why the overall tone of the comics has changed. Each comic now feels like it’s a “lost chapter” or could fit right into a season of the show that it’s for. But, in the end, it’s really your choice on if you want to accept the comics or not.

I choose to accept them since Paramount, the owners of Star Trek, has said that they’re canon and that’s good enough for me 🙂. Live long and prosper, amirami 🖖.

Oops, I just saw this now. I didn’t mean to repeat myself to you moments ago. My bad!!

I hope Paramount sticks to their guns and it remains canon. But tbh they don’t have a good track record with that. The JJ crew under Paramount said the same in the 2000s. Who’s to say when the next generation after Kurtzman and crew take over they won’t change their minds again?

ignoring canon in the movies and TV is very hard because it has such a large audience. But comics have a couple thousand at best. No casual Trek fan will have or will ever see the adventures of Sisko and Data in the Comics.

side note. Little confused now Data is alive post Nemesis but I guess I’ll have to read to find out 😁

Peace and Long Life 🖖

Yes, you’re right, Star Trek comics do have a small audience. But Paramount has been publishing less of the Star Trek novels in the hopes of getting more people to read the comics. By the end of this year, there will have only been 3 Star Trek novels published. Whereas with the comics, there will have been almost 20 comics published this year, not including graphic novels.

See the vast difference 🙂. Because they made the comics canon in 2019, Paramount wants more eyes on the comics. But, like we already said, it’s not required reading 🙂. On a side note, the new comic with Captain Sisko in it takes place in 2378, one year before Nemesis.

That’s how Data’s alive because Nemesis hasn’t happened yet.

Live long and prosper, amirami 🖖

Ahh so Sisko comes back pre nemesis? Interesting. Well I hope you are right about the comics. Tbh I’m going to bide my time and see. But if you are right down the line I will buy a whole bunch and start reading.

Alwaya, always, always up for some DS9! Also, I will bet you credits to navy beans that Vic Fontaine shows up on LDS.

Hee! Love the shout-out to “Catspaw”!

Love that expression… What was the officer’s name, Lasalle?

OH! I never even thought of that! Vic would be the PERFECT character to show up! He fits in perfectly with the whole these of LDS.

Folks say the Avery Brooks won’t come back. I don’t think that’s accurate. The person in the media who knows him best is Cirroc Lofton and he’s made it clear that Brooks would return to Trek. I think he’s no different then all the other more prominent actors in the franchise. They want meaty roles and not cameos. Shatner, Stewart, and Mulgrew have all said this. It’s just that Brooks no longer makes public appearances. But people like Lofton and Ira Steven Behr have said Avery Brooks is still talking to them about DS9’s legacy. He was involved behind the scenes with the documentary. He just said he didn’t have anything new to say. Give him a great story and I think he will return.

Exactly, Eric 🙂! I’ve said on here numerous times about how Cirroc has stated that Avery still wants to act and it’s Hollywood that turned it’s back on Avery. But everyone on here keeps saying that he’s retired. I choose to believe Cirroc Lofton over what anyone on here has to say because Cirroc still visits Avery and he has dinner on Sunday nights, he said on his podcast, with Avery and his wife.

So until Avery Brooks himself actually says that he’s retired, I choose to keep believing that he will return some day, just like Jake and Kasidy were waiting for Captain Sisko to return from the Wormhole one day 🙂. And that return has started with that new Star Trek comic coming out in October that features Captain Sisko returning from the Wormhole. We’ll probably get an announcement about Avery Brooks returning to play Benjamin Sisko next year since that’ll be the 30th anniversary of DS9 and I can’t think of a better time to announce the return of Avery Brooks and Benjamin Sisko back to Star Trek, can you 🙂? Live long and prosper, Eric 🖖.

I agree. And fill up his suitcase with Benjamins if that is what it takes!

Absolutely 🙂👍! Live long and prosper, One Lion 🖖.

They could start bringin DS9 back by remastering it.

I’ll always secretly hope that the DS9/VOY remaster project announcement is just around the corner. I can’t imagine it not happening eventually, even if they’re just waiting it out until AI upscaling is virtually flawless or something (if that’s even possible, I don’t know these things).

Yea, I think a couple more more years of the AI upscaling to mature, and we will finally get it in HD.

Why would they do that when the TNG remaster was a profit failure?

Nah, sure the BR’s didn’t make as much $ and they had hoped, but the investment has easily paid off by now with streaming, broadcast, etc. But they aren’t going that overly expensive production route again given the AI remastering technology is getting close to providing a software-based solution within the next couple of years where they will be able to HD remaster the series at an equivalent level of quality to TNG HD, but at a fraction of the cost.

They will get around to doing this because the have to preserve their catalog investment in DS9 and Voyager for years to come. But it’s going to be a software solution.

And that was 10 years ago. 10 years before, DVDs with full seasons were the newest thing after years of expensive VHS in low quality with only 2 episodes. Time has passed on and there should be a cheaper way to achieve better quality.

That was 10 years ago. Other, newer shows aren’t also bought on BR, nevertheless they make profit of it.

It may happen, DaveCGN. Next year is the 30th anniversary of DS9 so they could be working on remastering it right now. They had a remastered First Contact on Paramount+ last month and nobody knew about that or that Paramount was working on remastering it. So it’s possible that Paramount could be working on DS9 right now in order to have it done in time for it’s 30th anniversary.

I hope 🤞 🙂. Live long and prosper, DaveCGN 🖖.

Considering that the cost of remastering DS9 and VOY combined is the cost of basically two episodes of Discovery, it would be really annoying if they did not do it at some point.

Agree 100%. It is so annoying watching DS9 on SD on Netflix. Until season 6 it looks shit

What’s the point of that?

What’s the point of showing them in almost VHS-low-quality on HD viewscreens which demand higher and higher quality? TOS and TNG got their remastering and revival. DS9 and VOY are the next thing.

It’s really unconscionable that they haven’t done that yet. Voyager, too. I get it’s expensive, but these are assets which need to be future-proofed. They’ll pay for themselves handily over time.

Never mind DS9, get Ensign Ro back! I really wanted Michelle Forbes to sign up for the long term on the Enterprise.

I still remember being bummed out that that didn’t happen.

My advice to Kurtzman:

Stop farting around with the Starfleet Academy and Section 31 series concepts, and give us a DS9 follow-on series that has at least has Sisko, Kira, Jake, Bashir and Quark. And find a way to bring Jadzia Dax back (how about an ep where Ezri Dax is dying and a clone of Jadzia is found in storage and we get Jadzia back). And have Leeta back, but have her now as a career Starfleet officer — update the sex symbol character to a professional female officer that is more consistent with the Star Trek of today.

They need to get off their buttts and make this happen ASAP as these actors are not getting any younger. Section 31 and Academy should be pushed back so that we get this soon.

I’m one who believes DS9 is at the top of any list for best Trek productions, but I’m not hot for anything that reeks of fan service or the multiverse trope for DS9. If we’re going to revisit another legacy location, let’s at least give continuity its due. Sisko is gone. Jadzia is dead. Odo is really liking life in the Great Link. Leave him there. Kira has likely ascended to some higher level of secular governance on Bajor. There’s no reason to shoehorn Leeta into a Starfleet uniform, there is plenty of opportunity for her to have become a civilian professional or leader as well….so, how is a story dealing with resurgent Cardasia or the Dominion a horrible thing, keeping it from rounding up the gang for one last ride across the cosmos? That’s what season three of Picard is shaping up to be. Will I watch that? Yeah, but I’m not feeling too good about it.

I hear you, but as someone else pointed out, the key here would be to bring Ira back and let him run with it. I would trust him to give us a good new series that is follow-on to DS9 that is not just fan service.

However, if Kurtzman says, “hey Akiva, give me a DS9 2.0 concept,” then I immediately start worrying.

And that’s literally Kurtzman’s problem. Every single person he has hired to produce and wring his shows have been bad at their jobs. Since he is likely here for another 4 years at least his best maneuver would be to turn over the hiring reigns to someone who knows, you know, actual imaginative people who can create good satisfying shows in the Trek world without stepping all over what came before.

Cool story bro

LOL, whatever, dude.

I can’t agree. I’m no fan of the current generation as a whole. I kinda can’t even watch DISCO at this point. I’ll only tune into PIC because of the TNG cast and because like TNGs season 3 I hope they grow the beard. But LD is fun if not a little ridiculous. Prodigy is fun and great for me even if it is meant for Kids. And SNW? There hasn’t been a Trek show with such a solid first season since TOS, appropriately.

I get the feeling that there are fans who are starving and are confusing mediocrity for greatness because of that. We went for so very long without a Trek show, then comes the horrid Star Trek Discovery to lower expectations so when the other shows come and are not quite as bad people are just expecting hot garbage and whey they don’t get it think it’s way better than it truly is. When starving a saltine can be confused for a Ritz.

I do think their best effort has been Prodigy. It feels like it really wasn’t made for kids, to be honest. And DS9, Voy and Enterprise all had WAY better first seasons than SNW.

“…Voy and Enterprise all had WAY better first seasons than SNW”

Lol, and pigs can fly now.

The idea that SNW had better first seasons that the three I mentioned is in the LOL flying pigs category. At least they didn’t crap all over their source material.

I don’t think Avery Brooks wants to do a replay of DS9. If he returns, it will more than likely be to his own show. His return from the Wormhole is being told in a new Star Trek comic and that’s probably so they don’t have to touch on how he returned from the Wormhole on screen and the comics are considered canon now by Paramount since April 2019. If we get a Benjamin Sisko Star Trek show, it may feature the ship that he’s the Captain of in the new comic, which is the U.S.S.Theseus.

It sounded like the one and only time that we’ll get to see DS9 is on Lower Decks and we’ll get to see a couple characters in Picard season 3 besides just Worf, of course. Also, I don’t think the other female-led show that Alex Kurtzman and crew are working on is Section 31. Yes, I think one show is the Academy show with Tilly. But I think the other one is the Janeway show that’s been hinted at a lot lately.

That would feature a female lead and I also think that Seven is gonna go to that show after Picard ends, if she doesn’t die on Picard that is 🙂. Live long and prosper, One Lion 🖖

Hi Johnny, I am just curious if you personally know Avery or any of his friends or family? I ask this because I’ve noticed in a lot of your comments you come across like you have some inside knowledge of what he wants to do on a new Star Trek series?

I would also point out that a Kira-led DS9, where she is now the head of DS9, and Sisko is a recurring character (say 3 eps per season), would check all of the boxes in terms of the female lead, plus bringing a much older Brooks back, who may not want the workload of a full series, but does want to return.

The “Star Trek: Sisko” sort of approach doesn’t get me all that excited. I would want the show to be tied to DS9. And although they claim the comics are canon, I have no doubt that they wouldn’t worry to much about overriding any of that if needed to support a new live action series.

Nope, I’m not personally connected to Avery, I wish I was 🙂. But I listen to Cirroc’s podcast and he basically fills everybody in on what’s going on with Avery on there. Plus these actors who played these legendary Captains back in the ’90s are just not gonna come back for a rehash of the same thing. What would they even do with DS9 now that’s not a rehash of the original show?

That show covered every topic it could over it’s seven year course so what’s left? It’s like Alex Kurtzman said above “they don’t want to do a rehash of DS9. If they can come up with an original idea, then they would touch on it”. So me having a personal connection with Avery Brooks or not has nothing to do with my comments. It has to do with not repeating what they’ve already done.

That’s why Sir Patrick Stewart, when he signed on to Picard, said that he did not want to do a TNG-redo. He wanted Picard to be different from TNG. I’m pretty sure the amazing actor that Avery Brooks is would probably want to do the same thing with Captain Sisko. Considering Avery’s age, Captain Sisko would probably be retired so he would have no reason to go to DS9, unless the story warranted it.

Much like Picard had no reason to go to the Enterprise-E during the first two seasons of his show. It’s only logical, One Lion. Putting Sisko on DS9 for no reason is just fan service. As for Nana, I’m more than happy to see her return.

But does she want to return? Nana’s life is a lot different than it was in the ’90s and she’s older now herself. I think if they came up with a Captain Kira show it might entice her to come back and they give her her own starship. But once again I don’t see her coming back to play Kira if she’s only on the station still because then it would be a rehash of what she already did.

The only way to really bring DS9 back would be to bring in all new characters and I’m not sure if Alex Kurtzman wants to do that. Maybe, who knows? If you read Alex Kurtzman’s words above, the way he talks about DS9 being on Lower Decks, it’s kinda final sounding, like we’re only gonna see DS9 on Lower Decks and that’s the last time that we’ll see her. But that’s just the way I inferred things.

Maybe you inferr things differently? So, no, I don’t have a personal connection to Avery but I know how magnificent of an actor he is. All you have to do is watch A Man Called Hawk to know that Avery is not going to just return for a cameo. It would have to really be something that he could sink his teeth into.

But this is just my opinion 🙂.

Live long and prosper, One Lion 🖖.

You make some good points. I think we would both agree that while Stewart originally wanted STP to be different from TNG, we’ll that has been a mixed bag so far, and so now the third season is deviating from that approach and is definitely going more in the fan service direction with a TNG reunion and with most of Picard’s S1 and S2 crew “jettisoned” — so Stewart’s idea kind of flopped and now we are sort of getting TNG again, which is not what he was originally intending for STP to be about.

So assuming Picard S3 is as great as well all hope, well that would prove Patrick Stewart largely wrong on his original desires for STP — and that would highlight why a sequel series to DS9 might be better than some new adventure for Sisko since it.

Hopefully Brooks is paying attention to this and is noting how Stewart’s show, despite it’s best intentions to do something new, ended up falling back to a sequel/reunion season. “Star Trek: Sisko” I am just not all that excited about. I think it’s got to at least have Kira, Jake and Bashir on it. Just my personal opinion though.

Are you being silly now, One Lion? Of course Jake would be there. And Kasidy and the daughter that Kasidy gave birth to after he went into the Wormhole, she’d be there too. And it doesn’t have to be called Star Trek: Sisko.

They can call it Star Trek: Theseus after the new ship he’s going to be commanding in the comics. If you don’t know who Theseus was in Greek mythology, I suggest you look him up because I did and that name applies perfectly to Captain Sisko. There’s all types of stories they can do with Benjamin Sisko. He’s Benjamin Sisko, a legend unto himself.

Besides they have time before they get to Sisko’s show. The Janeway one is the most likely choice for the next 25th century show. And I didn’t say we might not see people from DS9, One Lion. I said that we wouldn’t see DS9. I definitely would expect Ezri to show up because of Dax’s connection to Sisko.

I think Bashir’s gonna be in Picard season 3 now more than ever because of what Terry Matalas said over the weekend. He said that Worf’s actions during the Dominion War are going to play a big part in season 3 of Picard. I have a funny feeling that the next season of Picard might be bringing back the Quickening. And that’s why I think we’ll see Bashir next year on Picard.

You gotta use your imagination, One Lion 🙂😄. Don’t just think so rigidly 🙂.

I like your deduction on the Quickening regarding Worf and Bashir on S3 — that fits pretty well with what we are hearing.

Johnny, it’s not so much me being rigid as it is seeing what worked on Picard — the new directions for Picard didn’t work that well, so they are going TNG reunion instead. They should learn from that regarding DS9 hopefully. That’s all I’m saying.

BTW, I am not a big Ezri fan though — I miss Jadzia. Given Data, Spock, Picard and others got new life, they should find a way to bring her back and make that central to the first couple of eps in the new DS9 series.

Also, I am not a huge Janeway fan, but I get that I am in the minority on that, and that is fine. Honestly, the Janeway series possibility and the Academy series possibility don’t get me very excited. I would much rather that we either get a Seven-led series, a Yeoh Section 31 series or a DS9 2.0 series.

Well, Seven will probably be on the Janeway show, One Lion. The Janeway show will probably be named after whatever the new ship’s name is in season 3 of Picard and that will be the show that has Janeway and Seven on it. As long as Seven lives, though. Because Jeri Ryan has hinted that she may die in Picard season 3.

I don’t know if she was making a joke or not but she did mention earlier this year that Seven might not survive season 3 of Picard. If they are dealing with the return of the Quickening next year, then there’s probably an even higher chance that Seven might not make it. And Terry Matalas has also hinted that there might be a high body count next season on Picard. That was in one of his tweets.

But if Seven does survive Picard season 3, then she will more than likely go with Admiral Janeway onto whatever live action show she’s gonna be on. Thank you for telling me that I had some good thinking going on in regards to the Quickening coming back. It’s just a feeling I have but it’s getting stronger the more I hear about Picard season 3. Also, about Dax, it doesn’t have to be Ezri that we see in the Sisko show.

It can be a whole new Dax. Ezri could’ve gotten injured or was killed during the Synth attack on Mars and they had to find a replacement for the symbiote so we could get a new Dax. I can’t think of a logical way to bring back Jadzia. Her neck was snapped by Gul Dukat and then Worf ejected her body into the heart of a sun so that she could go to Sto-Vo-Kor.

Now Spock was on Genesis so he still had a physical body to come back to. Picard died and had his mind uploaded into the body of a Golem android but he still had a physical body. Jadzia has no physical body so there’s nothing for her to return to. But she still lives on in the symbiote so she’s not really gone.

A lot of people love Jadzia Dax. Terry Farrell wanted to leave DS9 and go do Becker and that’s why Jadzia had to be killed off. I know it’s tough to lose a character you love. I love Captain Kirk and I had to watch him die in Generations and there’s still a physical body for him around and stupid Paramount still doesn’t want to bring him back!

And that was mostly because Paramount wanted to stick it to William Shatner because of how much money he wanted for Generations 😄. And look at Captain Sisko, I love him too. He’s another one of my favorite characters. I had to wait 23 years for them to finally tell the story of his return from the Wormhole and in the story that’s in the comic, since it’s set in 2378, it’s only been 3 years in Star Trek time and in reality it’s been 23 years 😄.

So, trust me, I know it’s hard to lose a character you’re invested in and that you love and you want them back more than anything. As long as we get a Dax, speaking for myself, I’ll be happy. Because a piece of Jadzia will always be in that symbiote, know what I mean? It’s also okay not to be the biggest Janeway fan.

I completely understand that. But that may be what’s coming next. The Section 31 show needs Michelle Yeoh and she’s doing voice work for Avatar 3 -5 right now and then she’s got a ton of movies afterwards. They should just turn the Section 31 thing into three 2 hour movies and put them on Paramount+, like the Ceti Alpha V thing they’ve been working on for a long time that’s now going to be a podcast.

Because Michelle Yeoh is just so super busy for the foreseeable future. I don’t see where she would find the time to shoot a 10 episode show on top of her busy schedule. The Section 31 thing just seems futile to me. But maybe it might happen, who knows 🙂?

All reasonable comments. The only disagreement I would have with you on these remarks is that I don’t think either Ryan or Mulgrew would want to work together on a multi-year series again. Sure, superficially, it appears that they get along now, but that doesn’t mean that either wants to work every day with each other. They may say the right things on this in public, but I have serious doubts that either would want to do this.

Can I prove this. No. Do I suspect it’s likely. Yes.

I doubt it. It look like they buried the hachet years ago. It’s not a Takei/Shatner situation. ;)

But here is what it comes down to. I am generally a forgiving person myself and I have made up with some people who I perceived as having F’d me over in some way years back. Am I comfortable and cordial having dinner or spending a bit of time with these people, sure. Would I wanna work with them on 60 hour work weeks for five months every year… no way! I think you are ignoring basic human nature here.

This happens in Hollywood ALL the time. The fact most people didn’t even know there was an issue between the actors until after the show ended is also pretty common because actors just power through. I have no doubt if Janeway and Seven was on a show together they would do it because it’s been 20 years and they hashed out their issues even if they aren’t besties. If they are both that interested in doing a live action show full time at least.

But per usual, all of this is nothing more than huge hypothetical. I don’t see them on the same show again full time unless it’s a Voyager revival or something and it’s the last thing I would want personally (but of course will still watch the hell out of it lol). At BEST if Seven is given a show Janeway might show up in a few episodes a season so I think that would be more than fine even if they still didn’t like each other.

I agree with you, One Line, that Jeri Ryan did have bad times behind the scenes of Voyager. But I read an interview with Kate Mulgrew back in 2015 where she said that she took responsibility for her actions. She also said, in the same interview, that she apologized profusely to Jeri Ryan for what happened and that Ms.Ryan accepted her apology. Now, you may ask yourself, how do we know that she accepted the apology?

I’ll explain that right now. Robert Beltran played the mediator between Kate Mulgrew and Jeri Ryan on the Voyager set and he even stated at conventions how bad it got behind the scenes. He said, in 2019, during a Voyager panel that he himself would never return for a Voyager reunion because of everything that took place behind the scenes on that show. But look who’s back now on Prodigy 🙂?

If Ms.Mulgrew didn’t apologize to Ms.Ryan for her actions back on Voyager and if Jeri didn’t accept it, then I don’t think Robert Beltran would’ve agreed to return to play Chakotay on Prodigy, would he? So I think Kate Mulgrew and Jeri Ryan have buried the hatchet. But what better way to prove that then by doing another show together? It all depends, though, on if she survives Picard season 3.

Because, if the Quickening is back, then I think that it has mutated into a super sized version of the virus. That could be really bad for anyone who comes into contact with it. The Picard show does not shy away from death, that’s for sure. A Captain Seven show would all hinge on if Jeri Ryan wanted to commit to doing another show for another three years.

And from everything that I’ve read from her or heard her say, she feels like the Picard show also represents a conclusion to Seven’s story arc as well. There’s a beginning, a middle, and an ending. I’d like to see Seven continue on myself. But we don’t know anything about what’s coming in Picard season 3 yet so let’s not count our chickens before they hatch 🐣🙂.

If she does survive, then I think it more than likely that she’ll be on whatever show that Janeway’s gonna be on. Call it a hunch 🙂.

Live long and prosper, One Lion 🖖

Hi Johnny. thanks for that background. Please see my response to Tiger2, as it also covers my response to some of your remarks above.

But also you are correct in that if she dies in this season then this whole discussion is irrelevant.

I understand where you’re coming from, One Lion, but I seriously doubt they work 60 hour work weeks, especially since there’s only 10 episodes in a season now, not 26 anymore. Plus, if Seven is the lead in the show and Janeway is more of the co-star, then that would mean that Janeway would have less screen time than Seven would so why couldn’t they make that work? They’re both professionals. Or it could be vice versa and Kate Mulgrew could be the star again and Jeri Ryan the co-star and then she would have less screen time with Ms.Mulgrew.

There are ways to make it work. It’s not an impossibility. And the money will always dictate an actor’s actions. If they throw enough money at these two women, they will put aside their differences, especially since the film time for these new shows is a lot different than the old ones.

And if they do still have a problem with each other, then they can do what they did with Al Pacino and Robert De Niro in Heat. Neither one of them filmed that diner scene in the movie at the same time with each other. They weren’t face to face but they made it look like they were and this was 1995. If they could do that back then, then imagine what they can do today without these two actresses actually being near each other and if they still had a problem with each which I don’t think they do but who knows, right?

And, you’re right, if Seven doesn’t survive Picard season 3 than this whole conversation is moot 🙂.

Johnny, like many, you were suckered in believing an urban legend on the making of Heat, my friend. De Niro and Pacino did in fact film that classic scene together. They did not rehearse the scene at all though and just went with it creatively as great actors do (and BTW, they have been friends since the 1960’s). That’s why it’s one of the greatest scenes in cinema of all time, and is also why I have the 4K Blu-Ray Special Ddition on advance order to be one of the first movies I am going to watch on my just delivered 4K projector. And I’ve also preordered the novel, Heat 2, on Audible. I am a huge fan of that movie. (BTW, I highly recommend the documentary autobiographical film, “Val,” about Val Kilmer’s life)

Regarding Ryan and Mulgrew, OK, if Ryan is the lead, with Mulgrew supporting, I could see that potentially working. I would be surprised though if Ryan would sign onto a multi-year show in which she was a supporting character to Mulgrew — sure, they are professionals, but to commit to that situation for multiple years…well, you know what they say: Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.

PS: You are right though regarding if enough $$ is offered for this — that can have a way of changing actors minds, especially aging actors who might feel this is their last chance at a big payday, and have kids and grandkids to support. But I would not be surprised if it would take more cash than expected to bring them together on a multi-year series given what I have covered here.

I am a huge fan of that movie myself and if I was “suckered”, as you so eloquently put it, then that’s a surprise to me because I read about this from the director of Heat himself, Michael Mann. He talked about having to film that scene with each actor separately. I’ve also seen the footage online of Al Pacino sitting in the booth and across from him was nobody but the camera. And then Robert De Niro came in and I saw Al Pacino leaving and as he left, they took his microphone off of him and De Niro sat on his side of the diner table with no Pacino across from him.

I also saw this footage when it was shown on Entertainment Tonight and Access Hollywood. They showed it when they were celebrating Heat’s 20th anniversary. So I’ll believe my eyes, my friend, and what Michael Mann said and the footage that was shown on Entertainment Tonight and Access Hollywood over the word of a person whom I’ve never met, if you don’t mind, One Lion 🙂. I also have the book coming, Heat 2, and the book is a prequel, not a sequel, and I’ve got Heat on DVD and Blu Ray also and that’s enough for me.

I’m a big Michael Mann fan myself and have been since the movie Thief came out back in the ’80s. It’s sad what’s going on with Val Kilmer. He has trouble speaking because he had throat cancer. His daughter says he’s doing fine, though.

And I’m glad to hear that 🙂. I:ll look up that documentary about Val Kilmer, thanks 👍! I understand your point about Jeri Ryan and Kate Mulgrew. We’ll just have to wait and see what happens 🙂.

No, it is unequivocally a scene with both of them in it. What happenned was that after Heat was released, there were many theories about that sequence with the reasoning being that De Niro and Pacino did not shoot for the scene together because we don’t ‘see’ them together. This is false, and is a result of Mann’s directing style for that scene. Also the coffee scene was not rehearsed because De Niro wanted it to be organic.

If you want proof, then to go to Youtube and watch the Christopher Nolan session with Mann, De Niro and Pacino, starting at about 17 minute mark. Search in Youtube for: “Robert De Niro, Al Pacino and Michael Mann Reflect On 20 Years Of ‘Heat’ With Christopher Nolan”

There is also a still photo in an old Vanity Fair of them both at the table together during filming, and Mann also had a third camera filming both of them, but he did not use any of the footage from that camera.

So yea, that urban legend has been demystified. They filmed the scene with them together at the table…fact…case closed.

BTW, your info is a little wrong on the Heat 2 novel. It is both a prequel and a sequel with alternating chapters (think Godfather Part II).

Also, when you watch the Kilmer autobio film, Val, you will see that he is doing OK despite losing his voice (as you mention his daughter says) — it’s on Amazon Prime.

Man, you get so excited about being right, don’t you? You must be told that you’re wrong all the time a lot. As for the Heat panel, I’ll watch it. I like Christopher Nolan a lot so it should prove interesting.

Also, the listing on Amazon for the Heat 2 novel says it’s a prequel that is set in 1989 but also takes place after the movie because there’s a manhunt going on for Val Kilmer’s character. I was just going by what I read six months ago because that’s when I pre-ordered the book back in March. Maybe that’s why Michael Mann has a co-author on the book? Mann writes the past story and the co-author writes the present?

That’ll be interesting if it’s true. I just looked it up and the description did change. It covers 1988-2000. That’s a lot of time and the book’s only 480 pages.

Before when I pre-ordered it, it was 600 pages long it said in the description. It comes out in two weeks. Good, that’ll give me something to read during these heat waves that are going on where I live 🙂. And I already said in my last message that Val Kilmer’s daughter said that he’s doing okay and I said that I was glad to hear that.

And, once again, I will check out that movie because I do have Amazon Prime, thanks 👍.

Dude, what’s with getting all personal with me here? I thought you and I had gotten past this, but yesterday in another post you are making snide remarks about my rigid thinking, and now today you are insulting me that I must get told I am wrong a lot in my personal life? WTF?

Heat is one of my fav movies of all time, and I have watched and read nearly everything ever produced on it, and have a signed Val Kilmer Heat movie poster even. So I was excited you brought it up in that I could share my knowledge on it, including the Heat 2 book, which I have been following the developments on for a long time.

I am politely asking for an apology here, otherwise I recommend we go back ignoring each other’s posts if you can’t help yourself concerning these snide personal quips that you keep including in our conversations?

First of all the comment was from yesterday, not today. And I’ll give you an apology once you give me an apology. You told me I got “suckered”, like I’m some type of fool or an idiot who gets taken advantage of a lot. Re-read your last two replies to me.

If you don’t think you were being snide or slick with me, then, yeah, we should stop talking again. But, if you can see where you went wrong in how you spoke to me and offer an apology, then I will apologize for what I said. Capisce?

That is not equivalent. I said that it was an urban legend that suckered many people into believing it, you included. But I apologize if this came across as insulting to you, but my intention was to poke fun at the urban legend on that which persists to this day. Sorry.

You insulted me personally by suggesting I must have people in my personal life telling me that I am wrong all the time. That’s a direct and personal type of insult that reflects on my character, those around me, and my integrity.

Capish, bubbie? :-)

Yup, and you implied that I got suckered and I took that personally because I deserve respect and I felt disrespected, just like you just did, so I took that as a personal attack against me. But you apologized so I’ll apologize. I’m sorry for getting slick 🙂. One final thing about Heat, I think that’s cool that you have a movie poster autographed by Val Kilmer.

I’d like to have a poster that was signed by both Robert De Niro and Al Pacino myself. That would be awesome! But I’m sure that’s probably something very expensive to come by. And I hope the book lives up to the movie.

I have my doubts now because the book, in print, is only 480 pages. I think there’s going to be a lot of jumping back and forth and I think it’s gonna make the book confusing. I hope not 🤞 but there is a reason why Michael Mann is doing the sequel to Heat as a book and not a movie, especially since he said that he got this idea for a sequel to Heat not too long after he did the first movie. Sorry, that was two things about Heat, One Lion 🙂.

Yea, I am also nervous that the book won’t be great — hoping for the best. I suspect if the book it a hit, we might then get a movie…we’ll see.

PS: Yea, a movie poster signed by all three would be great. I think Pacino and De Niro are hard autographs to get though. Also, I have a Tombstone movie photo of Val as Doc Holiday that he signed.

…Ebay has some signed movie posters by De Niro, Pacino and Val — about $1000 to $4000 is the going rate depending on quality. etc. Some clown is trying to get $850 for a Tom Seizmore signed Heat poster…yea, sure dude, good luck with that. Lol

I agree with all of this. I think all their issues have been resolved years ago once they got away from the show and Mulgrew could see the person she was. But I don’t see them being on the same show full time anyway unless we are discussing a Voyager revival and I really hope not.

There was an article on here just a few weeks ago that talked about how Kate Mulgrew thinks the time is right for a Voyager reunion so if it’s something that’s being mentioned to reporters by her then, obviously, someone from Alex Kurtzman’s camp is talking to her about it. But, once again, I believe we’re getting a Star Trek: Janeway show that is in the vein of Star Trek: Picard and that will probably serve as a Voyager reunion as well. Will Seven be a part of it? I don’t know.

Jeri Ryan and Terry Matalas have both mentioned that Seven might not survive Picard season 3 so Seven’s fate might already be determined, especially if the Quickening is returning, which I think it is. Also, Jeri Ryan has said in interviews that she sees Seven’s story on Picard as a complete story. Seven might not be going anywhere after Picard’s done. But, if she was, then it only makes sense that they would put Seven in whatever the Voyager reunion project is and that’s all I’m saying.

Just a month ago, Tiger2, you were all set and ready to see a Janeway show or a Voyager reunion and now you say you don’t want to see one? I don’t know what changed your mind but my opinions stay the same and I still believe that we’re gonna get a Picard-style show for all the Captains, eventually. Live long and prosper, Tiger2 🖖

A Janeway show and a Voyager reunion are two different things like the Picard show and TNG is! I mean Prodigy is also a Janeway show, but she’s not back on the Voyager with Chakotay and Tuvok either. That’s all I mean. I have no issues seeing her or any of the characters again, I just don’t want it to be a reboot of Voyager itself, but sure it’s going to have elements of that show just by her presence alone.

I would love a Janeway show as her as an Admiral but still in the Alpha Quadrant and dealing with new characters. I would expect some Voyager characters to show up just like all the TNG characters showing up in Picard, but not a total rehash either.

But I guess the issue is how people define the word ‘reunion’. Some people it just means seeing all the same characters in a room together which I’m OK with. But if it meant everyone is now basically doing the same thing as before and all on the same ship 20 years later, then no, that’s not what I want. Notice how Patrick Stewart in interviews for season 3 keeps stressing its not a TNG reunion show. He seems to mean what I mean that they will be together but the characters will have grown and live different lives, which we already saw that in season one with Riker and Troi. So I think that was perfectly done and can’t wait to see more of it with the others.

But I have NO doubt they are thinking of another Voyager show. I been saying this forever, everything is probably on the table. We now got a TNG revival season, so I have no doubt if that blows the ratings (or whatever) through the roof that will open up other ideas with a reboot of Voyager, DS9, TOS, etc. Even Enterprise. It doesn’t mean any of it will happen but of course it’s probably all being considered. Frankly I hope none of it happens (EXCEPT Enterprise because it never got a real send off). I want to see the characters again but in a new life and place. ie, to see them grow, not stagnant. When the TOS movies had the same characters on the Enterprise doing the exact same jobs 20 years later that’s the very definition of stagnation. We all understand why it was done of course, but it was very unrealistic at the same time.

So I hope you get what I mean? I LOVE seeing all the characters back, I have no issues with that. But I also don’t want a repeat of what we already got 20, 30, 50 years ago either. Do something new and interesting with them and to their credit they ARE doing that for the most part.

As far as Seven being done, yeah they seem all over the place lol. Matalas says Seven might be done but he’s also stated several times he would love to see a Seven/Raffi spin off show. So would Jeri Ryan. Maybe they will give her ‘closure’ in the season but I doubt that means killing her off. They know it will not only upset fans it will kill any potential appearances for one of the most popular characters in the franchise. Maybe they will do it but I doubt it. There will probably be several more post-Nemesis shows in the next few years, it would be ridiculous to kill off some of your biggest legacy characters and they already killed off a lot of those lol. But none of them have been MAIN characters either except Data but he was already dead anyway.

I get your points, Tiger2. I should’ve probably been more clear because I think when Kate Mulgrew mentioned about a Voyager reunion, sorry about that, I think she was thinking more the same thing as you. We’re gonna see the characters and where they’re at in this point in their life, like the Picard show. I don’t want to see stagnation myself 🙂.

But it’s funny you mention the TOS movies getting stagnant and they never did for me. I just knew that there were multiple missions that the Enterprise went out on with Captain Kirk at the helm and he was the only one I wanted to see as the Captain of the Enterprise, even when he was an Admiral 🙂. Spock and McCoy stayed out of loyalty and friendship to Captain Kirk. The Enterprise was Scotty’s true love so he was never leaving her anyways.

Uhura did leave for a little while but I can’t recall where she went to and Chekov went to Starfleet Security which I thought was strange because he never showed an interest in security before. And Sulu became Captain of the Excelsior. Spock became Captain of the Enterprise. A lot happened in six movies, Tiger2 🙂.

The characters growed but the reason why they always came back to the Enterprise is because she’s their home. The Enterprise is where their hearts lie at. So that’s why they always came back. I don’t see that as stagnation because they became a family and they wanted to be together.

That’s what friendship is about – building bonds that can last a lifetime 🙂. So I don’t see the TOS movies as being stagnant. About Seven, I don’t want her to die either but Terry Matalas did tweet out that we should expect a high body count in Picard season 3. That’s why I think Seven might not make it.

But we’ll just play it by ear for now until Picard season 3 comes out 🙂.

Live long and prosper, Tiger2 🖖

Yeah I think if they were to do a Janeway show it would be different. I don’t think it would be different in the way Picard was. I think Janeway will still very much be part of Starfleet and they may even come up with a way they have to send her back to the Delta Quadrant just like we’re seeing in Prodigy now. So I think it’s fine to have elements of Voyager of course and find ways to get some of the other characters back, but not a redux like the way the TOS movies did mostly.

As far as the TOS movies, I don’t really disagree. Obviously I get it. For most fans TOS are those characters on the Enterprise. You can’t mess with that formula too much. But same time it is a LITTLE ridiculous. Take Spock, his entire career has been serving on that ship. I always describe Spock as the Kobe Bryant of Star Trek lol. That’s where he started his career and mostly ended it, at least as a Starfleet officer. Now of course by TNG we saw him in a totally different place which was great to see. But he was on the Enterprise for nearly 40 years and was never even its captain even though he was a freaking captain lol. Starfleet would’ve been begging Spock to lead his own ship, especially with someone with so much experience. Instead he was on a ship that is so old they were going to decommission it in TSFS.

But of course as you said, it’s their home so you can justify it, its just not realistic even within the universe of Star Trek itself. Most of these officers go on to at least a few ships in their careers. And of course TOS was never as developed as the other shows meaning we never got those ‘where is my career going’ discussions like you got on TNG, DS9, etc. You would think Chekhov, Scotty and Uhura decided they were assigned to the Enterprise for life once they got there.

Again, it’s fine, I wouldn’t want it a different way either. The TNG and TOS movies were extensions of the shows so that was the expectation. But I think as Picard showed once too much time has passed then it just feels like a regress. If it HASN’T been 20 years but more like 3-5 years then OK it would be easier to swallow to have a Voyager or TNG redux. At least most of them on the ship. But after awhile it does feel ridiculous.

I know for some people who may know my handle and see me push for legacy characters in these shows and films my posts may come off contradictory. But it’s not, I have no issues seeing old characters, just as long as you are taking them to new places or experiences. I think what they did putting Seven of Nine in Picard was absolutely brilliant ! They could’ve put Riker or Geordi in her role but instead put in a legacy character that has never interacted with him before. We got to see a different dynamic between two characters we love. That’s what they should be doing MORE of.

That’s why it was cool to see Worf on DS9. It was great to see that character in a different environment. Do more things like that with these characters in the future. Have Kira working with Janeway for some reason. Bashir is now working on a colony with Tuvok and Barclay. There are sooo many possibilities now. Just don’t go for the ‘obvious’ route all the time with these characters. That’s why sequels are always better IMO. And with so much time between classic Trek and modern Trek you can do a lot more with them you probably couldn’t back then.

But I never been into redoing any of the shows. It just doesn’t interest me. I was only interested in the Pike show because we never saw those adventures and it would be fun to see what Spock was like pre-TOS. But I have ZERO interest in doing another TOS show. None. So it will probably be made lol. But I think it’s a possibility for all of the old shows on some level now because nostalgia is the in thing and that’s always been true for Star Trek.

But if you just want to reboot TOS and TNG, that’s fine too. But I rather they didn’t.

See, Tiger2, the thing is when the TOS movies were made, Gene Roddenberry still had control over them. That’s why him and Nicholas Meyer butted heads, fiercely! Nicholas Meyer wanted to take the TOS characters in one direction and Gene Roddenberry kept saying no. So people were only allowed to do so much with those characters before Gene stepped in and said that they went too far.

All the stuff you like about Star Trek came after Gene passed away. I just read an article that had an interview with Ron Moore in it and he said that when he first approached Gene about doing the episode “Family” for TNG, Gene rejected his idea because Captain Picard is supposed to be on the Enterprise and warping off to strange new worlds, not down on Earth in a vineyard drinking wine. And just so you know “Family” is one of my top five episodes of TNG. My point is this, you’re talking about two different eras when it comes to the TOS movies and the Star Trek shows of today.

Paramount now owns Star Trek. They didn’t back then. Gene only allowed people to play in his sandbox and with his characters, but only if they put them back the way they found them. So I think it’s unfair to compare the TOS movies to the more modern era of Star Trek because who knows what Star Trek would’ve been like in the ’90s if Gene lived?

He did not like the concept for DS9 and I read about that in a two book set called The Fifty Year Mission. Star Trek’s original intent was to hold a mirror up to our society. It was a different morality play every week. In the original Star Trek show, there were not enough ships in the Federation to worry about advancing your career.

The Enterprise was seen as the flagship. There’s no where else to go once you’re on the flagship. Every other ship would be considered a step down when you’ve already reached Starfleet’s flagship. Starfleet not having enough ships can be seen in the episodes “The Ultimate Computer” and “The Doomsday Machine”.

Every ship in those episodes looks like the Enterprise and that’s because Starfleet was still in it’s early stages and still working on designing different ships. But the Enterprise was the prize of the fleet so, once you’re there, why would you want to leave? This is the problem right here with constantly expanding the Star Trek mythos. Because people forget that Starfleet was still in it’s infancy stages when Captain Kirk took command of the Enterprise.

In the original Star Trek, there was nothing mentioned about what came before, except for Captain Pike and Captain April. But because they keep trying to tell new stories with Star Trek, people have forgotten about certain things about Starfleet from TOS, such as the size of the fleet. And this is probably why they want to reboot TOS now. Because, if you really look at it, there is stuff that is contradictory to other stuff that was established in TOS but that is being overwritten by everything else that comes out. But what can I do about it, right?.

All I can do is just sit back and enjoy it 🙂. But it is unfair to compare the TOS movies era to the modern era of Star Trek, Tiger2. I’m very happy with those movies and I don’t think about what might’ve been. Because back then the only focus was on the Enterprise and Admiral/Captain Kirk.

And, yes, I do like seeing the Star Trek characters interact with one another. That is cool to see! But, back when TOS and the movies were around, they were the only characters in Star Trek. There were no other known characters for them to interact with like there is today.

So it’s really not fair to compare the two eras but it’s your choice 🙂.

Dude I wasn’t comparing the TOS movies to modern Trek. I said I completely understood why and I also said I had no problems with that. I was only talking about it from an in-universe POV and that officers generally move around to different posts during their careers. Even on TOS people were coming and going on that ship.

But as I stated, I understood why they didn’t change the formula for the movies and at that time it was only TOS, so it was a one track mind set because there was nothing else. Once TNG and the others came as you said, then yeah they could experiment a little more but they still kept to the basic premise of TOS, which was fine.

And while Roddenberry definitely had his issues and a bit obsessive with his property to the point he was starting to treat it like a religion and not a TV show, I always give him credit for creating TNG. TNG really does change the game in such a way I don’t know what Star Trek would’ve looked like today if it failed. But I’m going to say not for the better. In fact I think it would’ve been popular but at a level closer to BSG where they rebooted the same show, just modernized for today’s audience over and over again. The next one that is suppose to land on Peacock is rebooting it with the same characters as before. Fine but it’s not expanding its universe like obviously Star Wars and Star Trek is doing. IF that was the case, I know I would’ve gotten bored and moved on long ago.

They wanted Roddenberry to basically just redo TOS and obviously that’s what Phase II would’ve done. But I think once the movies showed up and those actors would be tied to doing those then he knew he had to shake up the universe and he did. Again, he got a little TOO involved to the point he treated TNG like some kind of Manifesto of what the future of society is suppose to be like and anyone who wavered from that was fired. But I think Roddenberry was willing to try different things even if he still stuck to the basic outline of what Star Trek was.

Now today you can do a lot more things with it and tons more characters and now eras are involved. Of course the Starship setting still reign supreme but it’s understandable because for most people it will always be about exploration before anything. I still like to see them mix it up more and still want another starbase show. NOT DS9, but something in that direction.

But if Roddenberry was running it today frankly I think it would’ve died off by early 90s. Not because he can’t make new ideas, but he’s way too rigid with them and why so many others are credited with keeping it alive from Coon to Fontana to Bennet to Berman to Pillar to Behr to Abrams and Kurtzman. You may not like all these people but they have had success, at least at some point to keeping Trek alive and moving it forward. For me Berman will always be the biggest in that circle (sorry haters, I love Berman!). And while people complained it was starting to feel all the same, he didn’t rely on nostalgia as overkill which Kurtzman is now doing mostly with Roddenberry and Berman’s characters (but clearly working lol). But I think all of them should be credited.

But back in the 80s Star Trek was more monotone and still mostly about people being on the Enterprise although its still about that lol, but much much diverse today in its settings and premises and why it thrives!

Again, I have people I have resolved past issues with, but who I would prefer not to work with every day with for 5 months per year, and repeating for multiple years, and I am guess they would probably feel similarly about me. It’s just human nature, dude.

Now lots of $ can perhaps get me to change my mind on this, but it would be more $ I would ask for than if I didn’t have any negative history with that person. That would be mental cost-benefit calculation for sure.

Your job is not THEIR job man, that’s all I’m saying. Actors work with other actors and directors all the time they don’t always get along with, especially if they think it will be a big boost to their careers. There are actors notoriously difficult to work with and yet people still do because it still helps their careers just by being in the same show or movie with them. There are tons of A-hole directors or producers out there people would stand 100 feet from at a party but yet still work with them anyway because that’s how a lot of Hollywood works unfortunately. If you’re a big enough actor you can choose who not to work with but the majority don’t have that power.

And yes they made up YEARS ago so I think they will be fine. They show up at conventions together all the time now. They are also older today, so they probably moved on from the drama long ago. You disagree, fine, it’s all hypothetical until there is a show they are both on to know which I don’t see happening anyway. That’s why these arguments are funny, majority of them are about things that haven’t happened or probably never will.

I hear you, and I get your opinion. I just think you guys put too much weight on public appearances in front of fans – my opinion. I am not as convinced as you two are that their public behavior equates to them wanting to work together from Monday to Saturday five months a year for the next several years. And I don’t think you have to be an actor to deal with that — it’s human nature in any profession. Especially as successful people age in their careers, they tend to more selective about the people they are willing to work with. That’s all.

No worries, and as you said, it’s not likely to happen anyway. And it’s certainly possible that I am just plain wrong on this.

OK, understandable. We can move on now!

True 💯🙂! I like Rick Berman myself, Tiger2. I told you that I love Enterprise and that’s Rick Berman’s baby right there. I like all the people you mentioned. I don’t have problems with any of them.

And I agree with you on everything.

Live long and prosper, Tiger2 🖖🙂

They could easily do both series if they committed to making them unique and interesting instead of similar to some other thing that audiences (and Trek fans) know. Academy would be better if it didn’t go into space too often, which would be a tough sell to Paramount, I think, but it’s what would give the show some juice. Can still do space sims and the holodeck, but it should be more of a soap opera with the occasional real interpersonal stakes that the audience cares about. Section 31 should be Mission: Impossible — discrete events, not season-long galaxy-spanners. Or, you know, whatever. These are both concepts with a chance to give us something different. Personally, I don’t need to see spinoffs and continuations or remixes of legacy characters. TOS-TNG-DS9-VOY-ENT (kinda sorta) tried to give us something new each time out. That’s a better legacy to revisit, in my mind.

Good thoughts, dude. Yep!

Quark needs a sitcom.

Sure, why not. They’ve already graffitied TOS and TNG. Let these impulse demons do their worst.

Because I really liked DS9 I’d prefer that Secret Hideout not touch it or the characters in any way shape or form beyond a fan serviced cameo on LDX. Sorry but I don’t trust them to do the show justice. They’ve already screwed with TOS. Let’s not do the same to the best show of the Berman era….

It’s the inverse of Data’s line in “Darmok”: The situation is analogous to understanding the grammar of a language but none of the vocabulary.

SH definitely knows the vocabulary, but it has no concept of DS9’s grammar.

LDX sounds so cool as an acronym! It reminds me of THX!

I saw someone else use it a couple of years ago and felt it the appropriate abbreviation.

I would be willing to bet a great deal of money that there will never be a DS9 or Voyager revival, but that (like Janeway and Seven) characters and storylines from those series will show up in current or future Star Trek shows.

And I’m hoping you’re right. I love all these characters but we don’t need anymore reboots or revivals. I didn’t even like the idea of doing a TOS reboot with the Kelvin movies. It looks like they DID get their way for a TNG revival in Picard, but it’s only one season and more of a proper goodbye that Nemesis didn’t do, so its a little different. And frankly after two bad seasons of that show, that’s really the only direction that can even excite me now.

The ONLY show where I want another ‘season’ of is Enterprise. That’s really the only show I want a revival of because it ended too prematurely. I’m not holding my breath for it but its the one I think deserves more seasons.

All the others had their time. They all got a proper ending. I’m ALL for seeing the characters again but do something NEW with them like what we got in Picard. I love the idea of seeing Worf Captain of another Enterprise with a new crew. That’s NEW! But I don’t want to see these old characters redoing roles we seen them do 30, 40 or 50 years ago. It’s exactly why I don’t like the Khan idea because you can’t do anything with the character besides sitting him on Ceti Alpha 5 and we know how that turns out already.

It would be nice to see the crew back together during the romulan wars. It would just have to be onboard a new ship (NOT named Enterprise!) because the crew was so young when it was decommissioned and the actors are so much so experienced now. And Trip has to be alive. Federation historical records got his death wrong. Canon retcon I will be happy to live with #BecauseIFeltLikeItBrannon

Actually it would be great if they were on the refit NX-01. It started as an idea when Enterprise was still on the air and was possibly to be used if they got a season 5. But Picard last season officially made it canon. Maybe it’s refitted at the start of the story the way the Enterprise was in TMP.

And yeah Trip has to come back. I don’t care how they explain away his death. Make it part of the story if they have to. I know he was brought back in the novels as a Section 31 agent.

If we are fortunate to get new Enterprise show absolutely Trip needs to be back. I think it easy. All they have to do is just say it was a holodeck recreation of a made up situation using the historical characters from Enterprise. It never really happened.

Even if it’s not Sisko, I hope someone from DS9 will be in LD S3. I’m hoping for Bashir and O’brien myself.

Also, I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, Worf looks FANTASTIC!

Having a series based on Sisko, even a mini-series, would be great. I know that in the novelization of the finale, Sarah hinted that his corporeal existence was over, which to me sounds like he died. This is not something that was mentioned in the episode itself. Also, in the DS9 novels, Sisko did return, but these are non-canon. So, I would love to see them bring Sisko back, but I would also be happy to see what’s happened with Kira, Bashir, and Ezri Dax, among others.

In the show his life is not linear. The Prophets are not linear. So technically there is no such thing as being”over” 😁 Done and done!

Please bring back DS9! That would be so incredible awesome!

I speak for virtually nobody when I say that I don’t care if Sisko ever comes back. He’s the most overrated character in all of Star Trek. I love him at times — he’s terrific in “Take Me Out to the Holosuite,” for example — but overall he’s just a big nothing for me. There are entire half-dozen-episode stretches where he may as well not even be in the show. Bleh, who needs his missing-in-action ass?

Now, Bashir or Garak or Quark or Kira or Ezri? More of them, please, absolutely. And Worf, obviously.

Worf has always been so confusing to me. Are you a commander of DS9/Defiant? Are you a commander on Enterprise E (Or Captain )? Are you Ambassador to Q’onos? Like dude, pick one!

Worf is the Wolverine of Star Trek.

You speak for me Bryant. I agree with 100% what you say.

Alex Kurtzmann is that guy in every company that isn’t really good at anything especially the job he’s doing but for some reason allways knows exactly what his bosses want to hear. Which keeps earning him promotions even though pretty much everone else in the company would be more qualified for the Job.

An excellent description. I think we’ve all seen people who are truly not very good at their jobs but have successfully conned their superiors they really are. I know I have.

You guys are so harsh lol.

Good God no, SH have done enough damage as it is.

I just don’t get the same feelings when you revisit characters with animation. It doesn’t feel real at all, and there is an emotional wall that is put up. Even if the characters are voiced by the same actor, it needs to be live action for it to feel real. It will be cool to see DS9 back on Lower Decks (I am certain Quark will be involved), but until they suit up and put on the prosthetics, it just feels like a weird fan fiction.

ForMe, I would need Avery Brooks As Sisko to be interested in this. His return seems unlikely to me.

Maybe Kurtzman is scared to touch something as perfect as DS9 in case of screwing it up

Hopefully, because he screwed up basically everything he touched

Oh how I wish he was that self aware….

Brooks was a badass at times in the series and when he was not overdoing it stood out as comparable to Kirk in terms of smarts and command presence. It was those odd times that he emoted over the top and it came off strange. My favourite captain after Kirk

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Last week, when Star Trek: Deep Space Nine celebrated its 30th birthday, the official Star Trek social media presence marked the occasion with only the barest of acknowledgements: a congratulatory tweet asking fans to name their favorite episodes, a new listicle of great quotes from the series, and not much else. An official anniversary logo and merchandise were rolled out, but with relatively little fanfare. There are, after all, five new Star Trek shows to talk about , including a reunion of the beloved Next Generation cast due in February on Star Trek: Picard. Paramount’s relative quiet about the anniversary is disappointing, but hardly surprising. As fans of the series — or its stars and producers — will tell you, it’s always been this way. Deep Space Nine was Star Trek’s problem child from the very beginning, and that’s exactly what made it so ahead of its time.

The show’s struggle for recognition is detailed in the 2018 documentary What We Left Behind: Looking Back at Deep Space Nine , which is essentially a love letter from the show’s former showrunner Ira Steven Behr to his cast and crew. Spinning out of the smash hit Star Trek: The Next Generation , Deep Space Nine launched in first-run syndication on January 3rd, 1993, and it was immediately apparent that this wouldn’t simply be the same premise with a different cast. (This was before Law and Order, CSI, or NCIS found massive success with exactly this model, juggling as many as three series at once with the premise Crime: But Elsewhere.)

Rather than simply send another Starfleet crew on a mission to go boldly where no one has gone before, creators Rick Berman and Michael Piller decided to take Star Trek back to its roots as a space western. If Star Trek was “ Wagon Train to the Stars,” as Roddenberry had often pitched it, Berman and Piller wanted their series to be Gunsmoke . Instead of riding into a new town/planet, confronting a problem, and moving on, their new heroes would live on space station Deep Space 9, the future equivalent of a frontier settlement where adventure comes to them. Consequently, this would leave the characters unable to simply wash their hands of the consequences of each episode and move on down the space trail. They’d be forced to clean up their own messes and rebuild the place — and themselves — a little differently each time.

Q holding his arms open at the bar to the Captain in Star Trek: Deep Space Nine

But, for a franchise whose heroes champion “infinite diversity in infinite combination,” Star Trek’s fanbase has a predictable habit of dismissing the new and different. Viewers rejected DS9 for a variety of reasons, from the reasonable (“What happened to that tireless Star Trek optimism?”), to the ridiculous (“You mean the station just sits there? ”). Even after The Next Generation came to a close in 1994, Trekkies who were resistant to the off-beat space drama could simply wait for the premiere of its more familiar, less ambitious successor, Star Trek: Voyager , the following January. Deep Space Nine enjoyed a few scant months as the only new Trek on television, after which it was essentially buried in favor of Voyager , the flagship series of the new UPN television network.

Just as importantly, the launch of both UPN and The WB in 1995 meant that first-run syndicated dramas were muscled out of prime time slots, and where Voyager aired nationwide on Mondays at 8 p.m., DS9 ’s schedule was erratic. (In my market, DS9 ran on Saturday nights at 7 p.m., unless the Mets were playing a night game.) This was particularly problematic given Deep Space Nine ’s commitment to serialized storytelling, which only deepend across its seven seasons. If a viewer missed an episode, which was likely to happen, they could potentially miss key story or character developments, and even showrunner Ira Steven Behr admits in What We Left Behind that it was not a boon to the show’s ratings at the time.

It is, however, perfect for streaming television, where Deep Space Nine found a new lease on life in the 2010s. Star Trek: The Original Series and The Next Generation are timeless, but decades after their release, Deep Space Nine is the classic Star Trek series that feels the most modern . While certainly not the first of its kind, it’s an early example of television’s growth from a medium for short stories to a canvas for sprawling odysseys. Moreover, existing in the very ’90s middle ground between story-of-the-week and full serialization puts it in the now-precious sweet spot in which every episode feels like a satisfying dish rather than a single bite of a meal that’s being spread out across ten courses. This is closer to the model being employed today by its younger cousins Star Trek: Strange New Worlds , Prodigy , and Lower Decks , which have overall enjoyed a warmer reception than their fully serialized older sisters Discovery and Picard .

Sisko in his blue uniform in Star Trek: Deep Space Nine

Though the depiction of an inclusive future for humanity has been one of Star Trek’s watchwords from the very beginning, Deep Space Nine is the classic series that comes the closest to meeting today’s standards for diversity. The series doesn’t just give the franchise its first Black leading man but also its most conflicted and textured, in single dad/station commander In That Order Benjamin Sisko (Avery Brooks). In What We Left Behind , Cirroc Lofton, who portrays Sisko’s son Jake, laments that Deep Space Nine is rarely mentioned in conversations about Black television shows despite the prominence of a Black family and the multitude of storylines involving exclusively Black actors. (In fairness, behind the scenes, DS9 was almost exclusively white.)

DS9 offered its female characters far more interesting and prominent roles than its predecessors. Kira Nerys (Nana Visitor) is a former terrorist who now serves the planet that she killed to liberate, but the new government is a shambles and ghosts from her violent past seem to hide around every corner. Jadzia Dax (Terry Farrell) has lived half a dozen lifetimes, both as a man and as a woman, and grows over time from a dime store Spock to the show’s endlessly lovable rogue. Recurring character Winn Adami (Louise Fletcher) might be Star Trek’s most fascinating antagonist, a religious leader whose faith and judgment are clouded by insecurity and political ambition.

But, above all, what makes Deep Space Nine feel the most urgent of all Star Trek shows past and present is that, more than any of its siblings, it embraces nuance. Star Trek is, and has always been, didactic, a means by which storytellers can approach delicate or controversial topics from a safe distance or with a new context. Deep Space Nine is no exception, but rather than spending 40 minutes attacking a social problem head-on and having the captain deliver a clear thesis statement before the credits roll, DS9 tends to leave the audience with room to draw their own conclusions. The dilemmas faced by Captain Sisko and company are more complex, as are their resolutions, which often do not fully satisfy the characters. Not only does this make for more interesting television, but it also tends to age much better than clear-cut “message episodes,” which are necessarily painted by the specific biases and blind spots of their time. There are still some absolute groaners in the bunch (“Profit and Lace” comes to mind, in which Quark goes undercover as a woman and predictable sexist hijinx ensues), but Deep Space Nine shows its age less than other Star Trek shows because it explores complex issues through complex characters and over extended periods of time, rather than simplifying and moralizing.

Captain Sisko is forced to make terrible choices — up to and including an outright war crime — in order to save the Federation from being conquered by the totalitarian Dominion. Like the violence performed by Kira Nerys during the occupation of her homeworld, these dark deeds are framed as both shameful and necessary. The same ambiguity applies to the Maquis, antagonists of the early seasons of the series who wage war against the Cardassians after the Federation trades away their homes as part of a peace treaty. It’s Sisko’s job to protect that peace, but even he must agree that the colonists are justifiably enraged by being betrayed by their own government. The righteousness of the Federation itself is called into question when Dr. Julian Bashir uncovers its amoral secret intelligence branch, Section 31, whose own actions are downright evil. Deep Space Nine never surrenders to full, nihilistic, ethical relativism; there is always a line between right and wrong. But, unlike on The Next Generation , where the strict Kantian philosopher Jean-Luc Picard sits in the captain’s chair, that line is not static.

This, too, attracted the ire of the Trek faithful back when the show was on the air. Star Trek sometimes feels like a cult, not only because of the dedication of its fans but because it does, in fact, try to tell you how to live. That a new installment of this quasi-holy text — the first composed entirely after the death of creator Gene Roddenberry — would question or contradict this vision of the future was abhorrent to some, but it in fact adds an ingredient that is essential to any faith or philosophy: doubt. Doubt that our heroes are incorruptible. Doubt that our current values are the best ones. Doubt that our own experiences are universal. Deep Space Nine does not throw away the ideal future of Star Trek, but it does attack its dogmatism. And, at a time when the only thing that moves faster than information is judgment and we are increasingly desperate for new ways of thinking and living, there’s never been a better time for a long, interrogative look at the world of tomorrow.

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Star Trek fans will finally get a 'Deep Space 9' sequel, but there's a catch

It’s finally time to go deep on Deep Space Nine.

In the Star Trek universe, Deep Space Nine is not necessarily one of its brightest stars. Not because the show wasn’t as good, interesting or long-lived as the others (it ran seven seasons from 1993-1999), but because it was unlike any Star Trek property that’s come before or since.

Darker, moodier and, perhaps, more static than the rest, DS9 placed its crew in a space station that never moved. It has enjoyed less acclaim and nostalgia than the original series or Star Trek: Next Generation and sits somewhere above the short-lived Enterprise series and just below Voyager on the Star Trek interest scale.

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So why make a documentary about an somewhat forgotten, nearly 25-year-old series about a space station, its crew (staring, among others, Avery Brooks as Captain Benjamin Sisko, Terry Farrell as Dax and Rene Auberjonois as Odo) and their years-long effort to bring a group of aliens — the Bajorans — into the Federation?

“A big part of it is Netflix,” said former DS9 show runner Ira Steven Behr, who is now producing the new documentary on the series tentatively titled, What We Left Behind: Looking Back at Star Trek Deep Space Nine (a nod to the shows’ final episode, "What You Leave Behind"). And, in a special twist DS9 fans will love, Behr reassembled the show's writers to create a story for what, in another universe, might have been the first episode in a never-produced season eight.

Behr and his production team are launching a $145,000 Indiegogo campaign on Thursday to fund the project and, he hopes, help them complete it for a winter 2017 release. Adam Nimoy, who produced a loving documentary tribute to his father , the late Leonard Nimoy ("Spock" from the original series), is on board to direct.

Star Trek: Deep Space Nine is the rare 1990s show that worked more like a novel than your standard episodic TV, another aspect that made it stand apart like a moody stepchild from previous and even future Star Trek franchises. It demands the kind of commitment that can be tough to get from audiences trained on shows that wrap up each week, but far easier for today’s Netflix-addicted generation.

“Thank God for binging. This is a show that’s helped by binging. The more you watch, the easier to catch the wave of the show,” said Behr.

Behr, who came to DS9 as a showrunner after spending a few years producing Star Trek: The Next Generation , acknowledges how different DS9 was from other shows in the franchise. It was something they actively fought for.

“We had to fight for everything,” he said, including Avery Brooks’ decision to shave his head and grow a goatee. The producers were worried at the time about having two captains, Sisko and TNG’s Captain Jean-Luc Picard, with shaved heads.

They also fought to keep the Deep Space Nine crew stationary, as opposed to flying each week into the stable wormhole that the station defended. The Studio was always looking to juice up the series, which is why characters like Q and Worf from TNG ended up as guest or series regulars. All the while, Behr and his writers were focused on the interior lives of the characters and, more unusually, religion and spirituality (Sisko was, after all, considered a god by the Bajorans).

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Paramount, which maintained sole control of the syndicated show in the '90s, has been cooperative, Behr said, embracing the documentary production.

Behr explained that freelance writers would regularly pitch both Star Trek: Voyager (1995-2001) and DS9 . Voyager wanted a big sci-fi concept or anomaly as the centerpiece of its relatively episodic show, whereas on DS9 Behr would tell writers, “I don’t care what you pitch, it better affect the characters.”

Fans of the show, though, contend that the darker tone did lighten up over seven seasons, that it got better and better, while remaining true to its core. Most believe it ended in 1999 on a high note, perhaps even with a possibility of more DS9 stories on the horizon.

That horizon never came, but Behr and his documentary team will dabble in a bit of wish fulfillment. Behr collected the original writers and had them come up with a “mythical Season 8, Episode 1,” something that will feature in some form in the film — and could potentially be a big draw for the show's original fans as well as the growing number of viewers now discovering it on Netflix.

The documentary, which they’ve been working on for almost two years, will also feature cast, crew and fan interviews — exploring the views of those who loved the show and Star Trek "purists" who never quite got it.

There may not, though, be a lot of fresh Avery Brooks footage. His involvement will come largely through existing interviews and film clips. Behr has true affection for the star, but adds, “of all the people I ever worked with Avery was the most interesting person.”

Behr believes Brooks would rather let the work he did speak for itself. Even so, Behr said that part of the reason he decided to do the documentary, Behr’s first, was for Brooks.

For many of the actors, the work on Deep Space Nine , with its hours of makeup, wasn’t easy. “Everyone is so much nicer now, especially now that’s there’s no makeup.”

The documentary may also help answer the lingering question of why series regular Terry Farrell, who played Dax, left suddenly at the end of season six. She was replaced by a new Dax character (played by Nicole de Boer).

“We talk about it. It was a very emotional interview. It’s very complicated. Much more complicated than I was aware of,” said Behr, who can’t promise that all that footage will make it into the final documentary.

Since Deep Space Nine , Behr has kept busy on various TV shows, including a Twilight Zone reboot and, more recently, the popular British show Outlander . He’s also finishing producing duties on his first film, Lucky, starring 91-year-old Harry Dean Stanton. The film premieres next month at SXSW.

The work on the Deep Space 9 documentary, though, is a labor of love and he remains appreciative of what the Star Trek universe (yes, it was a universe before franchises had universes) has given him.

“ Star Trek is the gift that keeps on giving if that’s what you want to do,” said Behr, who noted that, though he rarely goes to Star Trek conventions, he loves to sit with the fans when he does. He says they’re always shocked that Behr isn’t, as perhaps some Star Trek stars are, afraid of them.

“Fans are so positive. In this world we live in which is just so full of sorrow and the world seems to be crumbling somewhere all the time — if this gives them a little bit of joy I see nothing wrong with it.”

Now, maybe, those Deep Space Nine fans will get a little bit more joy, in the form of a fondly remembered documentary.

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In the vicinity of the liberated planet of Bajor, the Federation space station Deep Space Nine guards the opening of a stable wormhole to the far side of the galaxy. In the vicinity of the liberated planet of Bajor, the Federation space station Deep Space Nine guards the opening of a stable wormhole to the far side of the galaxy. In the vicinity of the liberated planet of Bajor, the Federation space station Deep Space Nine guards the opening of a stable wormhole to the far side of the galaxy.

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Trivia Kira was a last-minute addition to the cast. The original plan was to include the Star Trek: The Next Generation (1987) character of Ro Laren, but Michelle Forbes didn't want to do a series at the time.
Goofs In the first three seasons, CDR Sisko refers to his father in the past tense, even talking about his slow demise and death from some unknown ailment. But starting in the fourth season ("Homefront"), Joseph Sisko is alive and well running a restaurant in New Orleans. Joseph appears in a total of six episodes throughout the last 4 seasons.

Garak : [Cornered by a group of Klingons in his store] Well, let me guess! You're either lost, or desperately searching for a good tailor.

Crazy credits The opening credits for "Emissary" lacked the wormhole opening that all future episodes featured. Starting with Season 4, the opening credits included additional spacecraft and activity around the station, including the Defiant flying into the wormhole.
Alternate versions Several episodes were originally shown as 2-hour movies. They were later edited into two-part 60 minute episodes for later airings.
Connections Edited into Star Trek: Voyager: Unity (1997)
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Star Trek's Alex Kurtzman Offers Update On Whether A Deep Space Nine Revival Could Happen In The New Era

The executive producer revealed some previously unknown details.

Paramount+ subscribers have a lot of new Star Trek content coming to them in the years to come, but that doesn’t mean fans would turn away even more content. Especially when it comes to more revival-esque projects, as there are many fans interested in seeing Deep Space Nine and/or its characters could return for a revival of some kind, especially after it was revealed that the Lower Decks crew will visit the outpost in Season 3. Alex Kurtzman was put on the spot about making more DS9 content, and gave San Diego Comic-Con attendees a fairly surprising update.

Star Trek has already reflected on the past with meaningful shows and storylines for characters featured in The Next Generation and Voyager , but Deep Space Nine hasn’t received as much attention to this point. It sounds like that might soon change, with CinemaBlend present at the SDCC Star Trek panel to hear Kurtzman’s intriguing response to a fan who asked for more new content focusing on Deep Space Nine ’s characters. In his words:

Um, I’m trying to answer your question without revealing anything. I think we’re always having conversations about the history of Star Trek, and obviously, Sisko is a critical, critical figure for everybody. Conversations definitely have been had.

It’s certainly interesting to hear Alex Kurtzman bringing up the character Sisko specifically, as actor Avery Brooks hasn’t made Hollywood a full priority in the past decade. Seeing him return as Sisko, especially in live-action, would be quite a rare treat and maybe the most unexpected return of a Star Trek character from that particular project. It’s possible Kurtzman and others are trying to make something happen, but whether it’s bringing Brooks back to the franchise, or something else entirely, we can’t be sure. But the point is, something is happening, or else he wouldn't have been so intentionally vague, right?

Alex Kurtzman made it clear there are conversations happening, but was also clear on another point to San Diego Comic-Con attendees. There won’t be a Star Trek: Deep Space Nine continuation or spinoff just for the sake of it existing as fan service. Kurtzman explained in detail what they seek to do with every project, saying:

What I’ll tell you is that, for us, we don’t want to just launch into something without knowing oh we have now a new idea, a reason to do it, and a way to turn it in a new direction so it’s not just repeating the thing you’ve seen before. It’s also honoring the thing that you love. So, if we ever do go down that road other than what we’re already doing on Lower Decks, I think we would all want to make sure that it was coming from that place of being able to tell the new story while honoring the old one.

When CinemaBlend attended Star Trek: Mission Chicago earlier this year, members of the Deep Space Nine cast were asked about reprising their roles in the new generation of shows on Paramount+. Nana Visitor (who is gaining all sorts of new fans in the modern era for one specific reason ) and some of her fellow co-stars noted some interest in making it happen, but wanted DS9 showrunner Ira Steven Behr involved for sure.

It seems like both Star Trek creatives, and the actors behind DS9 , have specific requests on hand for bringing a follow-up project to life. So while those conversations may ultimately result in nothing, we’ll be waiting eagerly to see what is announced in the years to come. The good news is that Lower Decks will be bringing some sort of homage to the Deep Space Nine universe soon, and given Mike McMahan’s love for all things Trek , it should be a great and memorable tribute.

Star Trek: Deep Space Nine is available to stream on Paramount+ . Head to our 2022 TV premiere schedule to see what other new and returning shows are on the way.

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Star Trek: Deep Space Nine

Star Trek: Deep Space Nine was the fourth Star Trek series and entered production in 1992 . It was broadcast in first-run syndication from January 1993 until June 1999 .

It was the first Star Trek series created by Rick Berman and Michael Piller rather than by Gene Roddenberry . It was also the only series to air alongside another Star Trek production throughout its entire run, airing alongside Star Trek: The Next Generation from 1993 until 1994 , and then with Star Trek: Voyager from 1995 until 1999 .

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1.1 The characters
1.2 Alien races
1.3 The mirror universe
1.4 Technology
1.5 Costumes
2.1 Development
2.2 Serialization
3.1 Starring
3.2 Also starring
3.3 Special guest stars
3.4 Special appearances by
3.5 Recurring characters
4 Executive producers
5 Staff writers
6.1 Season 1
6.2 Season 2
6.3 Season 3
6.4 Season 4
6.5 Season 5
6.6 Season 6
6.7 Season 7
7 Related topics
9 External links

Summary [ ]

Deep Space Nine goes where no Star Trek series had gone before – DS9 was the first Star Trek production not based on a starship , but instead, a starbase , known as Deep Space 9 (the starship USS Defiant was introduced in season 3, but the station remained the primary setting of the series). The show is known for its complex characters and storylines, engaging battle scenes and darker (less Utopian) atmosphere. Unlike its predecessors Star Trek: The Original Series and Star Trek: The Next Generation , Deep Space Nine tended to avoid an episodic format for most of its run and instead featured multiple-episode story arcs .

The show broke the "standard format" for Star Trek shows a number of times as well, with a direct, first-person narrative providing the commentary for the episode " In the Pale Moonlight ", a retelling of a classic TOS episode from a different angle in " Trials and Tribble-ations ", life in the racially segregated 1950s in " Far Beyond the Stars ", and a reintroduction of the concept of "black ops" to the Star Trek universe with Section 31 : " Inquisition ". The show also broke with tradition – and with the two Star Trek series that followed it – by featuring a commanding officer as the star of the show at the rank of commander, rather than captain, for a significant portion of its run, until Sisko was eventually promoted to captain in " The Adversary ". Additionally, a number of the episodes and main storylines focused entirely on characters who weren't members of Starfleet: for example, those revolving around Kira, Odo, Jake Sisko, and Quark. (" Progress ", " Shakaar ", " The House of Quark ", " Heart of Stone ", " Prophet Motive ", " Little Green Men ", " Bar Association ", " Body Parts ", " Nor the Battle to the Strong ", " The Ascent ", " The Darkness and the Light ", " Business as Usual ", " Ties of Blood and Water ", " Ferengi Love Songs ")

The characters [ ]

Unlike other Star Trek series, DS9 also had a large cast of recurring characters . Such characters included Nog , Rom , Elim Garak , Dukat , Vedek Bareil Antos , Winn Adami , Weyoun , the Female Changeling , Damar , Martok , Kasidy Yates , Leeta , Brunt , Ishka , and Zek .

Miles O'Brien , and later Worf , were two characters imported from TNG. Worf – a major character from TNG – played a large role on DS9. Several Next Generation characters also had recurring roles on the show, such as Keiko O'Brien and Gowron . Several other TNG characters made appearances too, such as Captain Jean-Luc Picard , Thomas Riker , Q , Lwaxana Troi , Kurn , Lursa , B'Etor , Admiral Alynna Nechayev , Vash , Toral and Alexander Rozhenko . In addition, Julian Bashir and Quark also had one-time appearances on The Next Generation , in " Birthright, Part I " and " Firstborn " respectively. Quark (and the station itself) also made a cameo in the pilot of Star Trek: Voyager , " Caretaker ". Characters from The Original Series were also re-introduced in DS9, including Kor , Kang , Koloth , and Arne Darvin .

The series also featured a number of episodes in which the character of Miles O'Brien was subjected to particular trauma. This became an in-joke among the DS9 writing staff, who called them "O'Brien Must Suffer" episodes and went to great lengths to produce at least one such episode per season. ( Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Companion , p. ? )

Alien races [ ]

The series focused on several races that were first featured on TNG, such as the Bajorans , the Cardassians , the Trill , and the Ferengi . Later, the Klingons and the Romulans (both created in TOS) became pivotal species in the series. Many other species made appearances on the series, including Vulcans , Bolians , and Benzites . The series also created many species of its own, most notably the Changelings , the Vorta , and the Jem'Hadar , who formed part of the Dominion .

Jadzia Dax and other Trills portrayed in DS9 were distinctly different from how Trills had been depicted in the TNG episode " The Host ". In DS9, the relationship between host and symbiont was described more as a truly symbiotic relationship rather than the symbiont dominating the host. Trills now having spots, rather than prosthetic make-up, was due to studio executives feeling that Jadzia Dax actress Terry Farrell was too attractive to cover her face up. ( Cinefantastique , Vol. 23, No. 6, p. 21)

Another significant change was the relationship Ferengi had with Humans . The Ferengi on TNG had originally been intended to be a new adversary comparable to the Klingons in TOS, although the writers had quickly realized how ridiculous the Ferengi were as villains. In DS9, the Ferengi were mainly entrepreneurs and the Ferengi Alliance was a politically neutral economic power.

Deep Space Nine also featured several regular characters who were not members of Starfleet , with Kira Nerys , a member of the Bajoran Militia , and Odo , the station's chief of security , as well as civilians such as Quark and Jake Sisko .

The mirror universe [ ]

The series spent some time exploring the mirror universe , which had not been seen since the TOS episode " Mirror, Mirror ". The mirror universe was featured in five episodes of the series: " Crossover ", " Through the Looking Glass ", " Shattered Mirror ", " Resurrection ", and " The Emperor's New Cloak ".

Technology [ ]

The show also focused on a wider array of uses and depictions of functions for holographic simulations (known as a holodeck in TOS and TNG but as a holosuite in DS9). In addition to many obvious activities (such as those referenced by Chief O'Brien and Julian Bashir) which were completely in keeping with holodeck usage on The Next Generation , the numerous applications of the holosuites on DS9 included them being used as: a recurring background for people to hang out in, in the form of a 1960s Las Vegas lounge (in numerous episodes); a weapons showroom (by Quark); and the location for a baseball game between teams assembled by Sisko versus Solok , a long-time rival Vulcan captain (in " Take Me Out to the Holosuite ").

Costumes [ ]

DS9 initially featured a noticeable change in Starfleet uniform to a reversed color scheme of the TNG uniform, which is a black design with the division color on the shoulders and a grayish-indigo undershirt underneath the uniform, resembling the cadet uniforms seen on The Next Generation . This design is called the old DS9-style uniforms . It was mostly implemented as a continuation of Star Trek 's pattern of changing uniforms over time, although factors such as the discomfort of wearing TNG-style uniforms played a role as well.

What came to be known as the DS9-style uniforms were more of a variant than a switch, however, due to the cost of producing all-new uniforms. This is why, for example, the DS9 crew themselves wear old DS9-style uniforms from the beginning of DS9 pilot episode " Emissary " up to the fifth season episode " The Ascent ", and this style was also later used throughout Star Trek: Voyager . Meanwhile, even after TNG had gone off the air, the dress uniforms and flag officer uniforms on DS9 up until the sixth season (as well as uniforms on Earth , as seen in the fourth season episodes " Homefront " and " Paradise Lost ") were " TNG-style ".

These discrepancies were corrected with the later switch to a unified, "gray-on-black" format with the division color undershirts (known as the “ DS9-style ”), which was used through Star Trek Nemesis and were also used in this series, starting with " Rapture " and for the remainder of this series, though the old DS9-style uniforms in this series appeared four more times following the uniform change in the episodes, " In Purgatory's Shadow " and " By Inferno's Light " as well as seen on a photograph of " Field of Fire " and in the flashback scenes of " What You Leave Behind ".

Background information [ ]

Development [ ].

The decision to set the series on a space station, rather than a starship, spawned when Brandon Tartikoff originally approached Rick Berman about the show, in 1991, and specifically said he wanted it to have a format that was new for Star Trek but was classically western; if The Next Generation was Wagon Train in space, Deep Space Nine was to be The Rifleman in space – a man and his son coming to a dilapidated frontier town on the edge of known civilization. Berman brought this concept to Michael Piller , and together they set about creating a western in space. As Robert Hewitt Wolfe later explained, " We had the country doctor , and we had the barkeeper , and we had the sheriff and we had the mayor , we had it all, it was all there. We had the common man, Miles O'Brien , the Native American, Kira . " Indeed, the producers initially discussed setting the show at a colony on an alien planet rather than on a space station. This idea was ultimately rejected because it was felt that it would involve too much location shooting, and because they felt that fans of Star Trek wanted to see story lines set primarily in space , not on a planet. ( New Frontiers: The Story of Deep Space Nine , DS9 Season 2 DVD special features)

The change of venue to a space station was largely intended to differentiate DS9 from The Next Generation , because the producers felt that having two shows about a starship airing simultaneously would be unacceptable. As co-creator and executive producer Rick Berman later explained, " Because there were two years of overlap with The Next Generation , we could not create a show that took place on a spaceship. It just seemed ridiculous to have two shows and two casts of characters that were off going where no man has gone before. It was a land-based show, it was a show that in a sense was taking place on a space station. So it had to be an entirely different concept. " ( Deep Space Nine: A Bold Beginning , DS9 Season 1 DVD special features)

The decision to set the show on a fixed station rather than a traveling starship was also based upon a desire to look deeper into the actual workings of the Federation and to see how it dealt with the type of problems one wouldn't find in a show set upon a starship. Michael Piller felt that, by having the characters standing still, they would be forced to confront issues not usually applicable to people on a starship. Whereas on The Next Generation , issues raised each week could simply be forgotten about the following week as the ship visited somewhere else, on a space station, events couldn't be forgotten or left behind but instead had to have implications for the future. As Piller explained, " We didn't want to have another series of shows about space travel. We felt that there was an opportunity to really look deeper, more closely at the working of the Federation and the Star Trek universe by standing still. And by putting people on a space station where they would be forced to confront the kind of issues that people in space ships are not forced to confront. In a series that focuses on a starship, like the Enterprise , you live week by week. You never have to stay and deal with the issues that you've raised. But by focusing on a space station, you create a show about commitment. It's like the difference between a one-night stand and a marriage. On Deep Space Nine , whatever you decide has consequences the following week. So it's about taking responsibility for your decisions, the consequences of your acts. " ( Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Companion , p. ? ) Similarly, in 2002 , Piller stated, " If you look at The Next Generation , it's really about movement. You don't ever stay in one place long enough to get to know anybody. Well Deep Space Nine is a show where everybody is forced to stay week after week, so each episode, each show, is fundamentally dealing with the people who have to learn that actions have consequences, and they have to live with the consequences of their actions on a weekly basis. " ( New Frontiers: The Story of Deep Space Nine , DS9 Season 2 DVD special features)

Setting the show in a fixed location meant that a large cast of recurring characters could be built up with relative ease; much more so than in The Original Series or The Next Generation before it, or Star Trek: Voyager , Star Trek: Enterprise , or Star Trek: Discovery since. As Rick Berman, speaking in 2002, stated, " The show was land-based, but the benefit we got from that was that by staying in one place, it enabled us to create twenty or thirty secondary and recurring characters, which really enriched the show because of all the multi-layers of relationships that have existed over the years. It's a very character-driven show as a result, and I think that makes it quite unique. " ( Deep Space Nine: A Bold Beginning , DS9 Season 1 DVD special features)

The decision to set the show in a fixed location was regarded as a benefit by the series' staff writers. For example, Ira Steven Behr , speaking in 1996 , commented, " We have certain advantages that I think no other Star Trek series has had, because we do have a base of operations that doesn't travel through space, which is the space station. Every story we do, the repercussions, the consequences don't disappear. It's not like the other shows where you have an adventure and then you zoom off into the great unknown. We are here, we have made a home, what we do has consequences. And I think we're able to do this mosaic, this fabric of life in the future, which I like. " Similarly, Robert Hewitt Wolfe, speaking in 2002, stated, " I think if Next Generation and The Original Series were about going out there and discovering new things about other races, Deep Space Nine is about staying in one place and discovering new things about ourselves. Not that we didn't go out there and discover things, but we had the same characters, we didn't change location every week. Sisko couldn't just solve a problem and sail off into the sunset, and never have to go back to that place again. That place was always there, and that problem could always come back to haunt him. So, in a lot of ways, it was a more complex show. " ( New Frontiers: The Story of Deep Space Nine , DS9 Season 2 DVD special features)

The series was designed to have more interpersonal conflict than its predecessors, while still staying true to the universe that Gene Roddenberry had created. Rick Berman commented, " [Deep Space 9]'s an alien space station that doesn't work the way they want it to, and that in itself created a lot of conflict. At the same, our core characters are Starfleet officers; Sisko, O'Brien, the doctor and Dax in no way vary from The Next Generation in terms of the lack of conflict among themselves. That was a rule we had to follow. " ( Captains' Logs Supplemental - The Unauthorized Guide to the New Trek Voyages , p. 5) Berman also commented, " What we wanted to do was something that was almost paradoxical – bring conflict but not break Gene's rules. They still play paramount importance in what we're doing. We created an environment where Starfleet officers were in a location that they weren't happy about being in, and they were in a location where the people who lived there weren't all that happy about them being there. " ( Captains' Logs Supplemental - The Unauthorized Guide to the New Trek Voyages , p. 8)

The show's main cast was intentionally assembled to create conflict (Quark and Odo, Kira and Sisko, etc.), so as to contrast the relatively tranquil atmosphere aboard Federation starships. This was another very specific decision taken by the producers. Gene Roddenberry's golden rule was that there was to be no conflict among Starfleet characters, so the producers decided to introduce non-Starfleet characters so conflict could come from within the show rather than always coming from outside (as it did on TNG). Rick Berman recalled, " We [....] created a situation where we had people who were members of our core group who were not Starfleet: the security shapeshifter Odo; the Bajoran Major, Kira; the bartender, Quark. A group of our integral people are not Starfleet officers, and the ones that are Starfleet officers aren't crazy about where they are, so we have a lot of frustration and conflict. " ( Captains' Logs Supplemental - The Unauthorized Guide to the New Trek Voyages , p. 8) Writer Joe Menosky explained, " You can see right away they're not the perfectly engineered Humans of TNG. They seem more real. I don't know if that makes them as attractive to viewers or not. But they are really different, and they represent a different way to tell a story. And it was definitely a conscious choice to create that potential for conflict. " Similarly, Berman stated, " Viewers didn't see that group of loving family members that existed on the first two Star Trek shows. " ( Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Companion , p. ? ) Michael Piller also commented on this somewhat controversial aspect of the show; " One of the primary goals of the development process was to come up with a show that had more inherent conflict than The Next Generation . In order to do that, you have to understand that Gene Roddenberry had a very specific vision for Humanity in the 24th century. What that meant for The Next Generation was that everybody gets along remarkably well on the Enterprise . There's very little room for interpersonal conflict between those people. In this series, we set out to create a situation that would provide natural conflict. We've populated the show with several aliens, primarily Bajorans , as we are stationed on the edge of the Bajoran star system . And the Bajorans are very different people than we are. They are people who are very spiritual and mystical and have a whole different way of looking at life than the 24th century humanist views which many of our Starfleet people will have. So immediately, there are conflicts. And then there's additional aliens from elsewhere who are thrown into the mix. So, as regular characters, not all the people are Starfleet, not all the people are Human, and as a result, you have this continuing conflict, because people who come from different places, honorable, noble people, will naturally have conflicts. " ( Deep Space Nine: A Bold Beginning , DS9 Season 1 DVD special features)

Unlike with TOS and TNG, Gene Roddenberry wasn't directly involved in conceptualizing DS9. Regarding Roddenberry's involvement in the series, Rick Berman stated, " Michael and I discussed it with Gene when we were still in the early stages, but never anything conceptual. " " We never got a chance to discuss it (the concept) with Gene. By the time we had it to the point that it was discussable, he was in pretty bad shape and not really in the condition that it would have been wise to discuss it with him. On two specific occasions I was with him at his house and we tried to bring it up, but it wasn't really appropriate. " ( Captains' Logs: The Unauthorized Complete Trek Voyages , p. 328) Director Paul Lynch remarked, " My gut feeling is that Gene would be jumping up and down. This is definitely a different take on what Gene spawned, but I think he would love it [....] While it's quite different, Deep Space Nine is also, in many ways, quite the same. All of Gene's moral requirements are upheld in this show. If we've done anything, we've expanded on what Gene created. " ( The Official Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Magazine issue 1 , pp. 10 & 12)

Initially, Berman and Piller were at a loss for a title for the series and toyed with calling the series "The Final Frontier". During further development, the station was temporarily dubbed "Deep Space Nine", which not only stuck permanently as the name of the station, but also the title of the show itself. Despite this, the two co-creators were reportedly dissatisfied with the name. ( Trek: Deep Space Nine: The Unauthorized Story , pp. 17-18)

Miles O'Brien was brought aboard DS9 and made a part of the space station's senior staff because the producers felt that Colm Meaney was too talented an actor to confine his character to a transporter room . Additionally, they hoped the TNG crossover would help boost the new series' ratings.

In the Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Companion , p. ? , Michael Piller explained the rationale behind each of the principal cast members, why each character was chosen, and what each one was to bring to the mix;

Jadzia Dax: " The Trill is a great race. They had some interesting ramifications on TNG. A Trill character would provide great potential for dichotomy and paradox. "
Odo: " We knew that we needed some kind of Data / Spock character who looks at the world from the outside in. And the idea that an alien entity would have to find some way to pass as Human was fascinating, and seemed to give us an avenue into the kind of 'complexion of Humanity' stories that we wanted to tell. "
Quark: " A Ferengi would provide the show with instant humor and built-in conflict. I saw Quark as the bartender who is a constant thorn in the side of law and order, but who has a sense of humor about it. He'd be someone who could obviously throw lots of story dynamics into play. "
Julian Bashir: " We decided to create a flawed character. He'd have to be brought down to size in order to grow. And we wrote him as kind of a jerk for much of the first season . "
Miles O'Brien: " After we decided we were bringing him over to the new show, we thought, 'How do we use him?' We'd already decided to focus on Bajor, with this long backstory, establishing his bitterness towards the Cardassians , so it worked very nicely together. "
Kira Nerys: " We liked the idea of having somebody working with the commander of the station who would be a thorn in his side, who would represent a different point of view. We knew we'd get conflict and interesting dynamics between the two characters. "
Benjamin Sisko: " Every hero needs a journey. You want to take your leading man on a quest where he has to overcome personal issues as well as whatever space stuff happens to be out there. The idea of a man who is broken and who begins to repair himself is always a great beginning for drama. "

The first officer aboard DS9 would have been Ro Laren , but she was replaced by Kira Nerys ( Nana Visitor ) because Michelle Forbes did not want to commit to a six-year contract working on DS9. Indeed, the reason the producers had decided to set the show on Bajor in the first place was because of Ro.

Following the highly rated appearance of James Doohan as Montgomery Scott in TNG : " Relics ", it was reported, in 1993, that Doohan had been urging Paramount to add him to the cast of DS9. It was also rumored that William Shatner had expressed interest in participating in DS9 in some capacity. ( Trek: Deep Space Nine: The Unauthorized Story , p. 15)

During pre-production for the series, the producers were especially keen to ensure that the aesthetic of the show was very different from anything yet seen in the Star Trek universe. For example, Director of Photography Marvin Rush said the producers told him that they wanted "a darker, more sinister place" than the Enterprise -D. Rush himself described the final look as "dark and shadowy." Similarly, Herman Zimmerman said, " The marching orders for the station were to make it bizarre. " Finally, Supervising Producer David Livingston summed up the differences between DS9 and TNG by comparing the Enterprise 's bridge with Deep Space 9's Ops ; " The bridge is a very easy set to shoot. It's a three-wall open set with a lot of room, big and cavernous. Ops, on the other hand, is a multilevel set with a lot of cramped areas and very contrasty lighting. It's more interesting visually. " ( Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Companion , p. ? ) As Colm Meaney elaborated, " Because it was an alien space station, it gives the whole thing a very different feel I think to Next Generation or the original show, where you have the Enterprise , which is this very perfect environment. This is much more kind of dark and eerie, and also nothing works, the whole thing is a terrible mess. " ( Deep Space Nine Scrapbook: Year One , DS9 Season 1 DVD special features)

From the very beginning, DS9's darker aesthetic, more antagonistic characters and less Utopian setting were somewhat controversial among die-hard fans of Gene Roddenberry's universe. As Ira Steven Behr, speaking in 1996 (about halfway through the show's seven-year run), stated, " At the beginning of Deep Space Nine 's life, there was feelings that this was not a show that Gene would approve of by some of the fans, feeling that, you know, we had gone away from the image of the future as a paradise, that we had much more conflicts between our people, life isn't always great. But I think Gene, just by his very nature as a creative individual, as a writer, as a forward-thinking person, knows that any franchise has to move forward like a shark, or it dies. And I think he would understand what we're doing, and I think he would like what we're doing, and I think we're in the pocket of the Star Trek universe, and we try to push the envelope. And I see nothing wrong with that, and I have a hard time believing that Gene would see anything wrong with that. " ( New Frontiers: The Story of Deep Space Nine , DS9 Season 2 DVD special features) The sense that DS9 was too "dark" to be a Star Trek show only increased over the years, with episodes such as " Nor the Battle to the Strong ", " In the Pale Moonlight " and " The Siege of AR-558 ", and topics such as Section 31 charting territory never before seen on a Star Trek show, and creating a great deal of controversy among fans of both The Original Series and The Next Generation .

Robert Hewitt Wolfe recalled that Sisko holding the rank of commander led to unfavorable comparisons to the other series. " Whenever people would do articles about Star Trek they would talk about the three captains: Kirk , Picard , and Janeway . " The decision to promote Sisko to captain was prompted by the producers feeling that he deserved the higher rank as much as the other lead characters. ( Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Companion , p. 253)

Identifying one way in which he believed DS9 differed from TNG, Colm Meaney stated, " On Next Generation they were dealing with more philosophical ponderings where we on DS9 tend to deal with more hands-on immediate crises that I think of as more resonant with the problems we have in the world today [….] I think that's probably the single main difference. We connect more with contemporary issues, issues relevant to the 1990s, than did Next Generation." ("Mr. Goodwrench", Star Trek: Communicator issue 105 , p. 20)

Serialization [ ]

The series is best remembered for an approach to serialization, predating the format of the late-2010s Star Trek series. Ira Behr commented: " The fact that Discovery is serialized or that Picard is serialized doesn't mean much to me, because how could they not be serialized in 2019? They get to just stay with the times. It's easy to be serialized now. Thank God they're doing that, but it would only be worthy of discussion if they didn't do it. The serialization was a bold move. I look back at it now and I was really a bit of an asshole, because everyone was saying people can't keep up with it. The show was syndicated and on at different times. I didn't care about any of that. I just wanted to do the best show we could do. I could understand why certain people involved and other producers and studios would feel that that was a little bit of an annoying take, because it did hurt the fan base, but at the time, I wasn't thinking about the future. I just wanted to do the best show we could do ". [1]

Ron Moore commented, " I think a lot of Battlestar was born at Deep Space Nine in that Deep Space started as much more episodic because of the nature of the show, it became more a continuing serialised structure. I really liked that, and I discovered I really liked that style of storytelling, and also particularly when we got into the later years of Deep Space , and we started telling the Dominion War story (1997-99), we would sit and argue and fight with the powers that be at Trek about making it a more realistic war, about making it grittier, and ugly; adding more ambiguity to the characters, and roughing it up a little bit, and I kept bumping my head against the strictures at Trek . What Star Trek is could not accommodate things that I wanted to do, so I started to have this sort of pent up frustration about ‘well if we were really going to do it right’, these ideas would sit in the back of my head so when Battlestar came along, I could now do all of those things that I was never allowed to do at Deep Space . " [2]

Due to the non-episodic nature of DS9, some of the series was lost on the casual viewer when it first aired. Many also believe that the changing television landscape contributed to DS9's ratings trouble, as local TV stations which had aired TNG in prime time became WB and UPN affiliates and pushed syndicated programming to the margins. Subsequent Star Trek shows Star Trek: Voyager and Star Trek: Enterprise had network support from UPN and a guaranteed time slot. DS9 was also the only series to run opposite another Star Trek show (first The Next Generation , then Voyager ) for the entirety of its run (the first twelve episodes of the third season aired without another series on). Additionally, certain markets, notably in the UK, would only play one Star Trek series, in its entirety, at a time. Thus, events alluded to in The Next Generation or Voyager that happened in Deep Space Nine took months to "sync up."

Star Trek: Deep Space Nine was nominated for 32 Emmy Awards , mostly in "technical" categories such as visual effects and makeup. It won four: "Outstanding Individual Achievement in Main Title Theme Music", "Outstanding Individual Achievement in Special Visual Effects", and "Outstanding Individual Achievement in Makeup for a Series" (twice).

Deep Space Nine remained a fan-favorite series throughout its seven-year run, with reviewers consistently lauding the series for its bold shift in tone from The Next Generation . Most notable among such changes was the concept of inter-personal conflict – something which Gene Roddenberry himself was said to have forbidden.

Said Ronald D. Moore , DS9 producer and screenwriter:

"I'd like us to be remembered as the Trek series that dared to be different. We took chances in a franchise that has every reason to play it safe and spoon-feed the same old thing to the audience week after week. We challenged the characters, the audience, and the Star Trek universe itself. Sometimes we failed (sometimes spectacularly) but we never stopped trying to push the show into new directions."

Robert Hewitt Wolfe remarked, " The truth of DS9 is, we had a great ensemble cast. Michael Piller created all these terrific characters [with the exception of Worf]." ("Flashback: The Way of the Warrior", Star Trek Magazine issue 127 )

Several former producers and head writers from DS9 have been involved in other sci-fi series, including the creation of the "re-envisioned" Battlestar Galactica , as well as The 4400 , Farscape , Medium and Outlander .

In 2019, the documentary What We Left Behind was released. The documentary featured interviews with the actors, writers, production staff and fans, as well as featuring segments in which the writers pitched a new episode.

There was also a rivalry with another popular and critically acclaimed television series, Babylon 5 , created and produced by J. Michael Straczynski for Warner Bros. The two productions, which ran largely concurrently, were observed to be so similar that Babylon 5 fans accused Paramount, to whom Straczynski had previously pitched his series, of plagiarism. Considering how fellow Star Trek alumni like Walter Koenig and Andreas Katsulas had major roles in the rival series, Majel Barrett-Roddenberry agreed to a guest appearance in Babylon 5 as a gesture of goodwill to encourage a reconciliation between the two sets of fans. Rick Berman commented that rivalry was: " purely a fan thing, " adding: " there was a time when, I don’t know whether it was specifically Straczynski or other people, it was implied that he had pitched an idea similar to DS9 to Paramount and that it had been rejected and that, lo and behold, a year or so later DS9 came about. The implication being that Michael Piller and I perhaps stole all or part of his idea, which was always amusing to Michael and I because it was completely untrue. We had no knowledge of this gentleman. If he did pitch something to Paramount, we never heard about it. DS9 was a show that was created by Michael and me and Brandon Tartikoff, who was the recent head of Paramount at the time, without any knowledge of Straczynski or of anything that he had ever pitched. So when we were accused of stealing his idea it was a little sad but at the same time a little comical to us. " [3]

Main cast [ ]

The first season promotional image of the cast of Deep Space Nine

Starring [ ]

Avery Brooks as Commander / Captain Benjamin Sisko

Also starring [ ]

Rene Auberjonois as Odo
Nicole de Boer as Ensign / Lieutenant jg Ezri Dax ( 1998 - 1999 )
Michael Dorn as Lt. Commander Worf ( 1995 - 1999 )
Siddig El Fadil as Doctor Bashir
Terry Farrell as Lieutenant / Lt. Commander Jadzia Dax ( 1993 - 1998 )
Cirroc Lofton as Jake Sisko
Colm Meaney as Chief O'Brien
Armin Shimerman as Quark
Nana Visitor as Major / Colonel Kira

Special appearances by [ ]

Bernie Casey as Calvin Hudson
James Darren as Vic Fontaine
Robert Picardo as Lewis Zimmerman / Emergency Medical Holographic program
Chris Sarandon as Martus Mazur
Vanessa Williams as Arandis

Recurring characters [ ]

Cecily Adams and Andrea Martin as Ishka
Marc Alaimo as Gul Dukat
Philip Anglim as Vedek Bareil
Casey Biggs as Damar
Jeffrey Combs as Liquidator Brunt
Max Grodénchik as Rom
Aron Eisenberg as Nog
Hana Hatae as Molly O'Brien
J.G. Hertzler as General Martok
Barry Jenner as Admiral Ross
David B. Levinson as Broik
Kenneth Marshall as Michael Eddington
Chase Masterson as Leeta
Robert O'Reilly as Chancellor Gowron
Duncan Regehr as Shakaar
Andrew J. Robinson as Elim Garak
Mark Allen Shepherd as Morn

Executive producers [ ]

Rick Berman – Executive Producer
Michael Piller – Executive Producer (1993–1995)
Ira Steven Behr – Executive Producer (1995–1999)

Staff writers [ ]

Ira Steven Behr , Staff Writer
Hans Beimler , Staff Writer (1995–1999)
René Echevarria , Staff Writer ( 1994 –1999)
Ronald D. Moore , Staff Writer (1994–1999)
Bradley Thompson , Staff Writer ( 1996 –1999)
David Weddle , Staff Writer (1996–1999)
Robert Hewitt Wolfe , Staff Writer (1993– 1997 )

Episode list [ ]

Season 1 [ ].

DS9 Season 1 , 19 episodes:

Season 2 [ ]

DS9 Season 2 , 26 episodes:

Season 3 [ ]

DS9 Season 3 , 26 episodes:

Season 4 [ ]

DS9 Season 4 , 25 episodes:

Season 5 [ ]

DS9 Season 5 , 26 episodes:

Season 6 [ ]

DS9 Season 6 , 26 episodes:

Season 7 [ ]

DS9 Season 7 , 25 episodes:

External links [ ]

List of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine characters at Wikipedia
Star Trek: Deep Space Nine at Memory Beta , the wiki for licensed Star Trek works
Star Trek: Deep Space Nine at the Internet Movie Database
Star Trek: Deep Space Nine at TV.com
Star Trek: Deep Space Nine episodes at the iTunes Store
Star Trek: Deep Space Nine at StarTrek.com
Star Trek: Deep Space Nine at Wikiquote
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As sci-fi fans who love our furry friends, we can all agree that there needs to be more dogs included in our favorite franchises. Except for Cosmo the Wonderdog and "Spaceballs'" Barf, there's an unacceptable void when it comes to a diversity of cosmic canines sniffing around the universe.

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Written by acclaimed sci-fi author Mike Chen ("Star Wars: Brotherhood," "Light Years From Home") and paired with veteran "Star Trek" artist Angel Hernandez ("Star Trek: Picard - Stargazer," "Star Trek: Discovery - Adventures in the 32nd Century"), "Star Trek: Deep Space Nine - The Dog of War" reunites readers with those popular wormhole residents and its eclectic space station crew. You can check out our picks for the best Star Trek: Deep Space Nine episodes to catch up on the acclaimed Trek series.

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Return to Deep Space Nine in April 2023 for a new adventure with the station's crew and an adorable Corgi (not to mention Quark)!

" The Dog of War " seeks to conjure up a "lost episode" set within the canonical timeline of the original "Deep Space Nine" show that first hit the airwaves on January 3, 1993 and ran for seven seasons.

Check out the project's official synopsis:

"In the new miniseries, an extremely rare purebred corgi from Earth makes its way aboard Deep Space 9 when Quark cuts a deal to procure it for a potential buyer. After all, a Ferengi without profit is no Ferengi at all! But the corgi named Latinum comes with unexpected cargo that shakes Captain Benjamin Sisko to the core: a Borg component discovered by a crew sent to uncover Cardassian technology after the station’s reoccupation."

"'You mean the greatest TV show ever made?'" says Chen in an official statement when quizzed about his affection for "DS9." "I'm absolutely ecstatic to hang out with "DS9's" crew, and I hope that this story touches on all of the characters and intensity that made the show so powerful and great: Sisko's history with the Borg, the Dominion War, Garak's great outfits, Jadzia being Jadzia, Miles and Julian's holosuite adventures, and so much more. Also, Quark gets a dog. If that doesn’t earn your latinum, I don’t know what will!"

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"the jem'hadar" ended deep space nine 's second season with a shot off the proverbial bow—and brought with it the start of a grim new era for star trek ..

There is a lot to love about Deep Space Nine before it quote unquote “Gets Good.” The show’s first two seasons are, in a lot of ways, about the things many praise DS9 's back half for dealing with: the cost of compromising Star Trek ’s utopian future on the furthest fringes of its final frontier. But even then, few things prepared its audience for the moment everything changed with the arrival of the Dominion War .

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Odo's best DS9 episodes focus on criminal investigations, his origins, and ideological clashes with Changeling Founders.
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Star Trek: Deep Space Nine 's best episodes about Constable Odo (Rene Auberjonois) focus on his criminal investigations, the search for his origins, and his ideological clash with the Changeling Founders. Played by acclaimed actor Rene Auberjonois, Odo's best episodes of DS9 are characterized by some incredible acting, delivered from underneath heavy layers of prosthetics . Across seven seasons, the beloved Star Trek: DS9 character had to grapple with prejudice, unrequited love, and the sins of his past in episodes that showcased the thematic heft of the Star Trek: The Next Generation spinoff.

Odo's relationships with Quark (Armin Shimerman) and Major Kira Nerys (Nana Visitor) also define many of the Constable's best Star Trek: Deep Space Nine episodes . As DS9's Chief of Security, Odo was the perfect foil for the Ferengi bartender, but Quark and Odo's rivalry had an undercurrent of mutual respect that bordered on affection . Odo also had a close friendship with Kira, formed by a fateful moment from years earlier. Odo and Kira's friendship eventually developed into a romantic relationship, and that progression can be seen in some of the Constable's best DS9 episodes.

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Star trek: ds9 season 1, episode 17, "the forsaken", teleplay by don carlos dunaway & michael piller, story by jim trombetta.

Star Trek: Deep Space Nine season 1, episode 17, "The Forsaken" is one of the more successful DS9 and Star Trek: The Next Generation crossover episodes . The episode paired up the unlikely duo of Constable Odo and Lwaxana Troi (Majel Barrett) for a two-hander that revealed the insecurities of both characters. Odo's relationship with Lwaxana allowed DS9 's gruff Chief of Security to show his softer and more vulnerable side , improving the character as a result.

In the episode, the incorrigible Lwaxana Troi falls in love with Odo, and tries to woo the irascible Constable. Lwaxana's attempts are hindered by an alien intelligence that saps Deep Space Nine's power, stranding her in a lift with Odo. "The Forsaken" was one of Rene Auberjonois' favorite episodes of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine . Discussing the episode in the Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Companion , Auberjonois stated that:

" It helped to establish Odo and give him more dimension than he'd had up to that point "

Star Trek: DS9, Season 7, Episode 22, "Tacking into the Wind"

Written by ronald d. moore.

"Tacking into the Wind" is one of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine 's best Worf episodes , as it primarily focuses on his attempts to bring Chancellor Gowron (Robert O'Reilly) into line. However, there's also some very strong and emotional material for Odo and Kira as the morphogenic virus continues to ravage the Changeling's system . Kira, Odo, and Garak (Andrew Robinson) are sent on a dangerous mission to retrieve information about a devastating Breen weapon.

By infecting Odo, Section 31 effectively prove the Founders' belief that the "Solids" are barbaric and cruel.

Odo's determination to continue the mission despite his worsening health is heartbreaking. However, it speaks to the strength of Odo's character that he never lets Section 31's betrayal cloud his feelings about the "Solids". By infecting Odo, Section 31 effectively prove the Founders' belief that the "Solids" are barbaric and cruel , but despite the cruelty meted out to him by Section 31, Odo knows that it's wrong to reduce all of Starfleet to the actions of some rogue operatives.

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Star Trek: Deep Space Nine , season 7, episode 6, "Treachery, Faith and the Great River" explores Odo's status as a god . Odo is shocked to discover that Weyoun ( Jeffrey Combs ) wishes to defect from the Dominion to the Federation. However, the Dominion and the Cardassians are determined that Odo and Weyoun 6 never return to DS9.

What follows is an exciting prisoner transport thriller that also tackles some big themes around religious belief. "Treachery, Faith and the Great River" showcases Odo's courage under fire , as he tries every trick in the book to avoid the combined forces of the Cardassians and the Jem'Hadar. Weyoun 6 eventually sacrifices his life to save Odo in the episode's heartbreaking climax, forcing the Changeling to confront how his people have turned themselves into deities.

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Written by ira steven behr & robert hewitt wolfe.

For the majority of "Heart of Stone", Odo believes that Kira has become trapped in an expanding silicon rock formation. The more the formation increases in size, the more it consumes Kira, slowly crushing her to death. Tragically, Odo realizes that he's not trying to save the real Kira when the Major professes her love for him , revealing that it's an elaborate ruse by the Female Changeling (Salome Jens).

"Heart of Stone" is a great Odo episode because the impossible situation forces him to confront, and finally vocalize, his feelings for Kira . That journey is fascinating to watch, and Rene Auberjonois' performance of Odo, recognizing that he's been duped, is incredible. Veering from pragmatism about how Kira sees him as a friend to fury at the Female Changeling's plan, it's exactly the sort of multi-faceted performance that audiences have come to expect from Rene Auberjonois at this point in Star Trek: Deep Space Nine .

Nana Visitor wasn't a fan of the rock prop in "Heart of Stone", telling the Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Companion that it made her look " like a big old hot fudge sundae ".

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Star Trek: Deep Space Nine season 2, episode 12, "The Alternate" is an early episode that sheds more light on Odo's origins. It introduces the character of Dr. Mora Pol (James Sloyan), the Bajoran scientist who first discovered Odo in his liquid form . Dr. Mora believes that he's found clues as to where Odo originated from, but their research mission is cut short when the away team are stricken by some noxious gas, triggered by the removal of an ancient monument. The gas also has an adverse effect on Odo, turning him into a terrifying monster.

[Odo] comes to realize that this problematic scientist is actually the closest thing he's ever had to a father figure.

"The Alternate" is a brilliant take on Robert Louis Stevenson's Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde , that gives Odo actor Rene Auberjonois some challenging material to perform. The scenes between Odo and Mora are incredibly powerful, as the Changeling comes to realize that this problematic scientist is actually the closest thing he's ever had to a father figure. The scene in which Odo implies that he doesn't trust Mora while becoming the monster is an incredible moment .

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When Odo hears that holographic lounge singer Vic Fontaine (James Darren) gave Dr. Julian Bashir (Alexander Siddig) some helpful pointers on love, he decides to seek the singer's advice about Kira. Fontaine helps to bring Odo out of his shell, turning him into a suave pianist, while also making him more at ease socially. Eventually, Vic orchestrates a first date for Kira and Odo, albeit under false pretenses .

"His Way" was the first appearance of Vic Fontaine in Star Trek: Deep Space Nine .

By showing a completely new side of Odo in "His Way", Star Trek: Deep Space Nine showrunner Ira Steven Behr and writer Hans Beimler make this one of the character's best episodes. The transition from the drab brown Bajoran security uniform into a sharp tuxedo is a hugely positive one for Odo , not least because it finally allows Kira to see just how charismatic and charming he can actually be.

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For the first half of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine , Odo is turned into a "Solid" . It's fascinating to see how Odo contends with the frailty of a humanoid body, but it's equally fascinating to see how this plot thread is resolved. After he buys an ailing Changeling infant from Quark, Odo teams up with Doctors Bashir and Maura to cure the sick child and teach it to shapeshift. Odo becomes a doting father, and it's a strong sequel to "The Alternate", as he seeks to avoid the mistakes made by his own surrogate father.

Tragically, the infant Changeling in Star Trek: Deep Space Nine is too sick to live, but it does give Odo a parting gift. By bonding with the infant, Odo regains his shapeshifting abilities, giving him a renewed sense of purpose. It's a touching metaphor for parenthood that finally allows Odo and Mora Pol to reconcile their differences. "The Begotten" is a standout episode for Rene Auberjonois in a strong season for the character of Odo .

Star Trek: DS9, Season 5, Episode 9, "The Ascent"

"The Ascent" is the best Star Trek: Deep Space Nine episode about Quark and Odo's antagonistic relationship. Transporting Quark to testify against the Orion Syndicate, Odo's runabout explodes and strands the two old enemies on a barren planet. Watching Odo and Quark work together to survive is an absolute joy , and Rene Auberjonois gets some fine opportunities to deploy his dry wit. The scene in which Odo requests his ashes be tossed into his bucket and launched into the Gamma Quadrant is darkly funny.

The final scene of "The Ascent" is one of the best moments, as it sees Odo and Quark come closer than ever to telling each other how they feel. While they both say they hate each other, it's very clear from their laughter that the two Star Trek: Deep Space Nine characters love each other. "The Ascent" is also a great Odo episode because it shows a new side to him, as he has to deal with the fragility of his humanoid body , succumbing to the cold and breaking his leg.

Star Trek: DS9, Season 5, Episode 8 "Things Past"

Written by michael taylor.

Star Trek: Deep Space Nine season 5 has two classic Odo episodes in a row, as "The Ascent" is preceded by "Things Past". The episode sends Odo, Captain Benjamin Sisko (Avery Brooks), Lt. Commander Jadzia Dax (Terry Farrell) and Elim Garak (Andrew Robinson) back in time to when DS9 was Terok Nor . They're forced to live through a brutal tragedy from Odo's past, when he accidentally condemned three Bajoran men to death .

Rene Auberjonois is excellent as a repentant Odo, who is realizing with gut-churning inevitability what's about to happen. The final scene, in which Odo and Kira discuss his culpability in the execution is a quietly devastating exchange between the two friends. "Things Past" is, therefore, a spiritual sequel to the Star Trek: Deep Space Nine episode "Necessary Evil" , which revealed how Odo and Kira first met.

Star Trek: DS9, Season 2, Episode 8, "Necessary Evil"

Written by peter allan fields.

"Necessary Evil" is the best Star Trek: Deep Space Nine episode about Odo , because it firmly establishes the Constable's moral code. While investigating the attempted murder of Quark, Odo discovers that the crime is linked to his first case. Through flashbacks, "Necessary Evil" reveals how Odo came to Terok Nor, employed by Gul Dukat (Marc Alaimo) as a security officer. Tasked with investigating the murder of a Bajoran collaborator, Odo was unable to close the case, letting the killer walk free.

The killer is revealed to be Major Kira Nerys, and in one of the most complicated scenes in all of Star Trek , Odo and Kira contend with this new information. It's a crucial episode in Odo's Star Trek: Deep Space Nine story. Not only does it establish his origins as Chief of Security, it also reveals the depth of Odo's relationship with Kira, and how it's strong enough to weather the storm of her past crimes.

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Star Trek: Deep Space Nine

Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, also known as DS9, is the fourth series in the long-running Sci-Fi franchise, Star Trek. DS9 was created by Rick Berman and Michael Piller, and stars Avery Brooks, René Auberjonois, Terry Farrell, and Cirroc Lofton. This particular series follows a group of individuals in a space station near a planet called Bajor.

Cast Cirroc Lofton, Rene Auberjonois, Nicole de Boer, Michael Dorn, Nana Visitor, Avery Brooks, Colm Meaney, Armin Shimerman, Alexander Siddig

Release Date January 3, 1993

Network CBS

Streaming Service(s) Paramount+

Showrunner Ira Steven Behr, Michael Piller

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What will the crew do in Season 2? And how quickly will you have to watch to find out?

Unlike other modern Star Trek series, like the recently completed Discovery and Picard, Prodigy has 20 episode seasons, not 10, albeit while only running for about 24 minutes each. Prodigy’s first season was gradually released on Paramount+ in 2021 and 2022, which in some ways made Season 1 feel like two distinct seasons. Now, TrekMovie and other outlets have confirmed that Netflix won’t treat Prodigy the same way, and will instead release it all at once like a traditional Netflix show.

Is this good for Prodigy ? Possibly. Despite being aimed at a younger audience, Prodigy is heavily serialized. When Season 1 aired, it may have been hurt by the lack of episodes that could be watched back-to-back. Maybe the binge model will be good for families hoping to absorb more of the story quickly.

But Prodigy Season 1 also had a lot of spoilers tucked into its 20-episode run. From cameo appearances by classic Trek characters to famous alien villains and the aforementioned starship destruction, there’s a ton of cool stuff you can accidentally spoil yourself on if you don’t power through all the episodes at once.

Netflix’s big genre shows have been dealing with this for years; a new season of Stranger Things drops at midnight, and suddenly you have to be on guard for spoilers for not just the first episode, but also the finale. But Star Trek has never done this before. The franchise has always rolled out episodes in a way that makes spoilers much easier to avoid.

This gives Prodigy Season 2 even more of a challenge than Season 1. While the first season struggled to find its audience, the second season seems poised to alienate — or at least annoy — its core audience by giving away all the Trekkie goods way too quickly. As Captain Kirk once said, “Too much of anything, even love, isn’t necessarily a good thing.”

Star Trek: Prodigy Season 2 hits Netflix on July 1, 2024.

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Characters like Captain Benjamin Sisko embody the essence of a good father by prioritizing family above all else in Star Trek.

Father's Day is a time to celebrate great fathers, and there are many excellent paternal role models in Star Trek . A whole host of Starfleet dads were introduced in Star Trek: Picard as the crew of Star Trek: The Next Generation gave way to their own next generation. However, Star Trek: Deep Space Nine pioneered the portrayal of parenthood in Star Trek TV shows via Captain Benjamin Sisko (Avery Brooks) and Chief Miles O'Brien (Colm Meaney).

There are also many bad dads in the Star Trek franchise, from Q (John de Lancie) in Star Trek: Voyager to The Diviner (John Noble) in Star Trek: Prodigy . By actor Michael Dorn's own admission, Lt. Worf was a terrible father, putting pressure on his son Alexander to live up to his idealized image of a Klingon Warrior. Worf's son Alexander had many clashes with his father over the years as a result of Worf's questionable parenting skills. Perhaps Star Trek 's favorite Klingon could learn a thing or two from the franchise's best father figures.

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The father of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine 's Dr. Julian Bashir (Alexander Siddig) made mistakes, but Richard Bashir (Brian George) does the best for his son. In DS9 season 5, episode 16, "Doctor Bashir, I Presume", it was revealed that Richard and his wife Amsha (Fadwa El Guindi) had Julian genetically augmented, breaking Federation law. Dr. Bashir had always believed that his parents did this because they were ashamed of him, but in truth, it was because they were worried about his development being several steps behind the other kids in his school.

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Richard and Amsha Bashir wanted a better life for their son, and broke the law to provide it. When their crimes were unearthed, Richard Bashir made the ultimate sacrifice for his son, by giving up his freedom so that Julian could remain in Starfleet. At the end of Star Trek: DS9 season 5, episode 16, Richard Bashir was sentenced to two years in the New Zealand penal colony. Despite his sentence, there was a sense that the relationship between father and son had improved considerably as a result.

9 Sarek (James Frain)

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Spock and Sarek (Mark Lenard) is one of Star Trek 's worst father and son relationships, but the Vulcan diplomat has proved to be a positive paternal influence elsewhere. In Star Trek: Discovery , James Frain's Ambassador Sarek was a good father to Commander Michael Burnham (Sonequa Martin-Green) . Sarek and his wife Amanda Grayson (Mia Kirshner) adopted Burnham after her parents were killed by Klingons. As a student at the Vulcan Science Academy, Michael was almost killed in a terrorist bombing, but a mind meld with Sarek revived her and also left her with part of Sarek's katra.

Star Trek: Discovery is an entry in the legendary Sci-Fi franchise, set ten years before the original Star Trek series events. The show centers around Commander Michael Burnham, assigned to the USS Discovery, where the crew attempts to prevent a Klingon war while traveling through the vast reaches of space.

Sarek was a lot more nurturing of Burnham's humanity than he was Spock's, which is an interesting distinction. Burnham was a human raised on Vulcan, whom Sarek advised to loosen up when he arranged for her to serve aboard the USS Shenzhou. Spock was half-Human, half-Vulcan, and Sarek was always determined that his son should follow in his footsteps, creating a huge gulf between them. Sarek's close relationship with Burnham made him one of the best fathers in Star Trek , and it's sad that he never applied the same level of care and attention to his relationship with Spock.

8 Admiral Jean-Luc Picard (Patrick Stewart)

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Jean-Luc Picard (Patrick Stewart) never raised his son, Jack Crusher (Ed Speleers) but in his defense, he never knew that he existed. In Star Trek: Picard season 3, it was revealed that Jack was the son of Dr. Beverly Crusher (Gates McFadden) and Jean-Luc Picard. The two men struggled to connect at first, but ultimately, Picard's love for his son saved the day, as it was enough to break the hold that the Borg Queen held over him. Unlike some of Star Trek kids, Jack did follow his father into Starfleet, taking advantage of the Academy's fondness for nepotism.

After starring in Star Trek: The Next Generation for seven seasons and various other Star Trek projects, Patrick Stewart is back as Jean-Luc Picard. Star Trek: Picard focuses on a retired Picard who is living on his family vineyard as he struggles to cope with the death of Data and the destruction of Romulus. But before too long, Picard is pulled back into the action. The series also brings back fan-favorite characters from the Star Trek franchise, such as Seven of Nine (Jeri Ryan), Geordi La Forge (LeVar Burton), Worf (Michael Dorn), and William Riker (Jonathan Frakes).

Jean-Luc had a positive influence on Jack, who had previously been a criminal, who felt disconnected from the wider world. By meeting his father and seeing him save the galaxy with his best friends, Jack was inspired to become a better man himself. While Jean-Luc had never wanted to be a father due to anxieties from his own traumatic childhood , his relationship with Jack proved that his fears were unfounded.

Jack Crusher could have become the most powerful Borg of all if his father, Jean-Luc Picard, didn't save him in Star Trek: Picard season 3.

7 Cleveland Booker (David Ajala)

Much like Admiral Picard, audiences only get to see the son of Cleveland Booker (David Ajala) when he's an adult. In the Star Trek: Discovery finale's epilogue, Admiral Burnham is collected for a top-secret mission by her son, Captain Leto Burnham . Book and Burnham's son is shown to be the perfect combination of Michael's drive and ambition, and Book's swagger. Leto is also named after Book's nephew, who was killed along with the rest of his people when the Dark Matter Anomaly destroyed Kwejian.

Book was gifted the last two remaining root cuttings from the Kwejian World Tree in Star Trek: Discovery season 5, episode 8, "Labyrinths".

The devastating loss of Book's home planet and fellow Kwejians would surely have made him a loving and protective father to the young Leto. The connection to his son, and the Kwejian World Tree growing near their home on Sanctuary 4 gives Book the home that he lost. Book also lived life to the full as a Courier, and had all manner of adventures with Michael since she arrived in the 32nd century. All of which would provide Book with some excellent bedtime stories and smart survival advice to impart to Leto while he was growing up.

6 Captain William T. Riker (Jonathan Frakes)

Captain William T. Riker (Jonathan Frakes) faced some huge challenges as a father in the time between the end of Star Trek: The Next Generation and Star Trek: Picard . Riker and his wife, Counselor Deanna Troi (Marina Sirtis) lost their son, Thaddeus Riker, due to the ban on synthetic technology that would have saved his life. Thad Riker was hugely important to Will's story in Picard seasons 1 and 3, as he struggled to cope with his son's death. However, despite this, he struggled through his pain to be a good father to Kestra (Lulu Wilson).

Riker had to pretend to be the father of the de-aged Captain Jean-Luc Picard in the Star Trek: The Next Generation episode, "Rascals".

Riker and Troi set Kestra up with an idyllic home, surrounded by land to roam about in, and regular pizza nights. While the couple resolve to move back to the city at the end of Star Trek: Picard season 3, they'll be doing so to give Kestra a better life. Riker never had the best relationship with his own father , so it was heartening to see that he never let that impact how he interacted with his own kids. Moving past his own paternal issues, and the grief over Thad, Captain Riker goes from strength to strength as a father in Star Trek .

Roddenberry's "no conflict" rule prevented Star Trek: The Next Generation from fully exploring Will Riker's complicated relationship with his father.

5 Dr. Joseph M'Benga (Babs Olusanmokun)

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Dr. Joseph M'Benga (Babs Olusanmokun) did everything he could to save the life of his terminally ill daughter, Rukiya (Sage Arrindell). He stored his daughter in the transport pattern buffer while he struggled to find a cure for her condition, cygnokemia. M'Benga's mission on the USS Enterprise in Star Trek: Strange New Worlds season 1 was to meet new cultures and hopefully expand his medical knowledge enough to cure Rukiya. Tragically, he never found a cure, but was offered an alternative solution to Rukiya's condition in SNW season 1, episode 9, "The Elysian Kingdom".

A spin-off of Star Trek: Discovery, Star Trek: Strange New Worlds is a television series that takes place before the events of the original series and follows Captain Christopher Pike as he mans the helm of the U.S.S. Enterprise. The show focuses on this previous crew of the Enterprise as they explore the galaxy with returning characters from Discovery.

A non-corporeal life form that Rukiya dubbed " Debra " offered Dr. M'Benga the chance to cure his daughter's cygnokemia, but at a heavy price. M'Benga had to agree to let Rukiya become a non-corporeal being like Debra. This would mean that Rukiya would no longer live on the Enterprise, but she would also live on, free from her illness. M'Benga therefore agreed to Debra's offer, a painful sacrifice that saved his daughter's life and proved that he's one of Star Trek 's best fathers.

4 Commodore Geordi La Forge (LeVar Burton)

Commodore Geordi La Forge (LeVar Burton) is a great father who raised two excellent Starfleet officers. While he may be over-protective over Ensign Sidney La Forge (Ashlei Sharpe Chestnut) and her potential relationship with Jack Crusher, he only wants what's best for his daughters. Geordi's daughters' Starfleet roles reflected his own career in Star Trek: The Next Generation , as Sidney was a pilot and Ensign Alandra La Forge (Mica Burton) was an engineer . It's fun to see Geordi and Alandra working together to fix Data (Brent Spiner), and she presumably also aided his passion proejct; rebuilding the USS Enterprise-D.

Alandra La Forge is played by LeVar Burton's real-life daughter, Mica Burton.

Geordi and Sidney had their disagreements, but crucially, he listened to his daughter's criticisms and used them to grow as a person. That's the mark of a truly great father, someone who learns as much from his children as he teaches them. Geordi's daughters will hopefully be a part of any future Star Trek: Picard spinoff series or movie, but while that remains up in the air, they more than lived up to the example of their father in their fight against the Borg and the Changelings.

Star Trek: Picard season 3 shows Commodore Geordi La Forge as a protective father to his adult daughters, Sidney and Alandra, so when were they born?

3 Joseph Sisko (Brock Peters)

Joseph Sisko (Brock Peters) is a gourmet chef and the father of one of Starfleet's greatest heroes, Captain Benjamin Sisko (Avery Brooks). That makes him a pretty excellent father, given how well his son turned out. While Sisko's upbringing is arguably a result of meddling by the Prophets, Joseph Sisko's parenting left an indelible impression on Ben's morality and his approach to command. Sisko would occasionally cook for his crew in Star Trek: Deep Space Nine , bringing his father's creole recipes to the furthest reaches of Federation space.

Joseph Sisko regularly helped his son, providing an invaluable outside perspective on his struggles during the war against the Dominion . Joseph Sisko was also a brilliant character for providing audiences with the perspective of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine 's non-Starfleet characters. For example, in DS9 's season 4 two-parter, "Homefront"/"Paradise Lost", Joseph's reactions to the Federation sliding into authoritarianism helps to sell the horror of the situation. A great father, and a terrific grandfather, Joseph Sisko's positive impact on DS9 cannot be overstated.

2 Chief Miles O'Brien (Colm Meaney)

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Chief Miles O'Brien (Colm Meaney) is one of Star Trek 's greatest fathers because of his ability to balance the rigors of being Chief of Operations with raising two kids. Chief O'Brien had one daughter, Molly O'Brien (Hana Hatae) and a son, Kirayoshi O'Brien (Clara Bravo). Of all the times that O'Brien was made to suffer in DS9 , he very rarely took things out on his children. The one time that Miles snapped at Molly, was when he had endured unimaginable psychic torture in the episode "Hard Time". However, O'Brien was so traumatized by how he treated Molly that he took decisive action to atone.

Star Trek: The Next Generation

Star Trek: The Next Generation is the third installment in the sci-fi franchise and follows the adventures of Captain Jean-Luc Picard and the crew members of the USS Enterprise. Set around one hundred years after the original series, Picard and his crew travel through the galaxy in largely self-contained episodes exploring the crew dynamics and their own political discourse. The series also had several overarching plots that would develop over the course of the isolated episodes, with four films released in tandem with the series to further some of these story elements.

Chief O'Brien was forced to make the ultimate sacrifice for his daughter, too, in the Star Trek: Deep Space Nine episode "Time's Orphan". When Molly fell through a time portal and became a primal and savage killer, Miles and Keiko O'Brien (Rosalind Chao) were prepared to send their daughter away, to protect her from scientific experiments and criminal charges . Though an extreme situation, "Time's Orphan" demonstrated how prepared O'Brien was to make the tough calls to protect his family, the mark of a truly great father.

1 Captain Benjamin Sisko (Avery Brooks)

Captain Benjamin Sisko is Star Trek 's best father because, despite being a war hero, the Emissary to the prophets, and a demigod, he defines himself as a dad. From the very start of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine , Sisko's clash with Picard isn't just about Locutus, it's about Jean-Luc's inability to understand someone putting their duties as a father before their duties as a Starfleet officer. Throughout DS9 , audiences watch Ben raise Jake Sisko (Cirroc Lofton) to be a great writer and reporter. Unlike Sarek or Worf, Sisko doesn't reject his son's choice to follow a different path. He encourages Jake to find something that he loves as much as his father loves Starfleet.

Sisko's prejudices are also regularly challenged by Jake throughout Star Trek: Deep Space Nine , as he has his mind changed about the Ferengi, and about Dabo girls, due to Jake's relationships with Nog (Aron Eisenberg) and Mardah (Jill Sayre). When Sisko learns that he's about to become a father again, fate intervenes and takes him to the Celestial Temple before his child is born. However, once again, Sisko refuses to let anything get in the way of his paternal duties, assuring Kasidy Yates-Sisko (Penny Johnson Jerald) that he'll be back to raise his child after Star Trek: Deep Space Nine ends.

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