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The new Tour Z RPG and Tour Z RPG Tour shafts from Accra offer players and club builders a unique array of options.  Steady progression of feel across the three shafts.  Strong performers.

Introduction

If you’re tired of the overheated hype around so many golf products, you’re a ready-made fan of Accra.  Accra rarely advertises.  The names of their products often feel coded, eschewing flashy names for simple alphanumeric designations.  Yet among the best club builders and players in the world, the Accra brand is accorded huge respect because their shafts deliver.  I tested their new Tour Z RPG shafts so you can be in the know the next time you head to your fitter.

The Accra Tour Z RPG shafts are a perfect fit for an Olympic year.  Silver is the base color for the standard Tour Z RPG, and the Tour Z RPG Tour is a rich gold.  Both versions keep things clean with only black and white graphics on top of the base.  One interesting distinction between the two versions of the Tour Z RPG is that the LBP (Low Balance Point) is nearly 50/50 black and silver.  The HBP (High Balance Point) is almost entirely silver.

Graphics on these Accra shafts are bold and straightforward .  There is no “logo down” orientation, but the Accra branding is more prominent on one side, much more subtle on the other.  The “subtle side” is shown above.

Overall, I like the look of the Accra Tour Z RPG, but I love the Tour Z RPG Tour.  Just as in the Olympics, gold is a rare find in the shaft world, and it stands out in a good way .

Let’s start with the two versions of the Tour Z RPG, the Low Balance Point and High Balance Point .  The first thing to know is that these two shafts are not dramatically different in weight – Accra told me that the swing weight difference is only about one point .  This stands in contrast to many counter balanced shafts which aim to significantly lower the swing weight.

Accra recommended that I build the LBP and HBP to the same swing weight for testing.  In an effort to be comprehensive, I did that and also tested them without any head weight adjustments.

I found that the three Tour Z RPG shafts share a common bend point but each has a different level of action in the swing.  The Tour Z RPG HBP felt the most active to me, whether it had a standard or heavier driver head.  Just below the grip, I could sense the shaft load and kick.  The HBP also had a softer feeling from the mid section through the tip.  It wasn’t active or wobbly, but it wasn’t stout either.

The other end of the spectrum is the Tour Z RPG Tour.  This shaft has a small kick below the grip that didn’t seem to change whether I swung easily or all out.  From the mid section to the tip, the Tour version felt very strong.

Accra’s Tour Z RPG LBP was that Goldilocks sweet spot between the other two .  There was a little more kick below the grip than in the Tour version, and the lower two thirds of the shaft felt just stable enough.

Performance

A quick note for the number crunchers.  All of the data in this review was gathered during the same sessions, so it can be compared apples to apples.  That said, the numbers don’t tell the entire story of how these shafts worked for me.

I’m going to discuss the performance of the Accra TZ RPG shafts in ascending order of how well they worked for me.  Despite being largely identical in terms of specs to the LBP, the Tour Z RPG HBP was the bronze medalist of this group.  While I enjoyed the active feel of the butt section, I found it too unpredictable for my aggressive transition.  When I timed this shaft well, the ball went forever on a beautiful trajectory.  Unfortunately, those drives were sprinkled among many pushes and pulls.

The Tour Z RPG LBP was significantly more consistent for me.   I didn’t feel a need to time anything or hold back; I could swing naturally a typically get a very nice result.  The ball launched in a great window and bored through the wind.

When I got to the Tour Z RPG Tour , I knew I had found my gold medalist .  This shaft gave me just enough kick with all the stability I need to be confident on the tee.  Even with an aggressive transition, my swing speed is on the low end of what this shaft is built for.  As a result, my spin was quite low.  I prefer lower spin and can live with the occasional knuckle ball.  Players who want to shape their tee shots may prefer the non-Tour versions.  Personally, I was very happy hitting drives that rarely moved off their start line.

It should be emphasized that, as always, these are only my experiences.  Other players will have the exact opposite order of preference.  Still others will find the TZ RPG LBP to be a perfect middle ground.  The key is always to get fit to find what works for your swing. 

The Accra Tour Z RPG shaft comes in three weights – 352, 362, and 372 – translating roughly to 50, 60, and 70 grams.  The 352 is offered in M3 and M4 flexes, approximately regular and stiff.  The 362 comes in M4 and M5, and the heaviest model, 372, only comes in M5.  Each weight and flex is offered in High and Low balance point .  Accra’s Tour Z RPG Tour comes in 462 and 472 at 67 and 75 grams, both in M5+ flex only.

With the new TZ RPG shafts, Accra has given club fitters the ability to dial in the precise feel and performance that golfers want.  Whether you want a more active feel or a shaft that can stand up to your most aggressive moves, you can find it in this new line.

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Nice article, can you check the Accra I70 series? Thanks

Thank you. I will talk with Matt Meeker about the i70, as he’s the one playing an iron shaft closest to that weight.

Great review. I’m going to assume this shaft won’t replace your current Tensei 1K.

You’re correct, I’m very happy with the Tensei 1K right now.

Those are some good numbers Matt with the tour Z rpg . I would love to hit fit in there iron shafts. They are something special I bet . Thanks again Matt for another quality review.

I have the older tour z rpg 472 m5+ do you know how they differ?

I don’t have enough experience with the previous RPG to say definitively.

Hey mate, love your reviews. Was just wondering what head are you using in all of your testing? Cheers

Thank you. I use a PING G425 Max.

Thanks for the article! I haven’t been able to find an EI curve on these shafts. Sounds like the HBP and Tour sounds like a “black” profile and the LBP is more of a “blue” profile. Would this be accurate?

I don’t think the difference is quite that dramatic, but that’s just my feel/opinion.

Huge fan of your reviews, thanks!!

Any idea how the Tour Z RPG Tour compares to the previous version- ACCRA TOUR Z 400 RPG.

I am in debate between a Tensei White, a Hzrdus 6.5 and the ACCRA TOUR Z 400 RPG M5+:, haven’t hit any of them but swing speed is about 117mph and currently too strong for my Hzrdus 6.0 62g.

Any feedback welcome.

Regards Ryan

I have not tested the 400 RPG, so I can’t offer a comparison. My best advice is to get a fitting to try the shafts you’re interested in. Buy to try is a very expensive process.

Thanks Matt!

Hit all 3 today and couldn’t agree more. The HBP felt more active then the other 2. The LBP probably felt a little more stable to me than the Tour though numbers wise they were very close. Between those 2 the LA Golf Tour AXS Blue and my current SpeederTR 757 I was splitting hairs. Great read and great shafts!

How was the dispersion with the golf tour version, I play the Diamana d+ td so I’m trying to see if rpg would be a better upgrade.

The only way to know if it would be an upgrade for you is to get a fitting.

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ACCRA Tour Z shafts reinvented the shaft market with their low launch and low spin Tour qualities blended with ACCRA's prominent shaft feel. Now ACCRA includes a few newer models into the Tour Z golf shaft line.

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Accra Tour Z RPG Shaft Review

Introduction.

The 2024 Accra Tour Z RPG is a high-performance golf shaft that is designed for players who are looking for maximum distance and control. The shaft features a unique blend of materials and construction techniques that provide a combination of stability, power, and feel.

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Additional Information

In addition to the Tour Z RPG and Tour Z RPG Tour, Accra also offers a number of other shafts in the Tour Z series. These include the Tour Z, Tour Z Black, and Tour Z Blue. Each shaft is designed for a specific type of golfer, so it is important to consult with a club fitter to find the right one for you.

Model Breakdown

The Tour Z RPG is available in two models: the Tour Z RPG and the Tour Z RPG Tour. The Tour Z RPG is the more forgiving model, while the Tour Z RPG Tour is designed for players with a higher swing speed.

Sure, here is a more detailed breakdown of the two models of the Accra Tour Z RPG shaft:

The Tour Z RPG is the more forgiving model of the two. It is designed for players with a slower swing speed or who are looking for a shaft that will help them hit the ball more consistently. The Tour Z RPG is available in the following weights and flexes:

• 352: M3 (Regular)
• 362: M4 (Stiff)
• 372: M5 (X-Stiff)

The Tour Z RPG has a low balance point, which helps to promote a higher launch angle and lower spin. This makes it a good choice for players who are looking for more distance and forgiveness.

Tour Z RPG Tour

The Tour Z RPG Tour is designed for players with a higher swing speed. It is stiffer than the Tour Z RPG and offers more stability and power. The Tour Z RPG Tour is available in the following weights and flexes:

• 462: M5+ (Stiff)
• 472: M5+ (X-Stiff)

The Tour Z RPG Tour has a high balance point, which helps to promote a lower launch angle and more spin. This makes it a good choice for players who are looking for more control and accuracy.

Which Model is Right for You?

The best way to determine which model of the Accra Tour Z RPG is right for you is to consult with a club fitter. They can assess your swing speed and playing style and help you choose the shaft that will give you the best results.

Here are some additional factors to consider when choosing between the Tour Z RPG and Tour Z RPG Tour:

• Swing speed: The Tour Z RPG Tour is designed for players with a higher swing speed. If you have a swing speed of 105 mph or more, then the Tour Z RPG Tour is a good option for you.
• Playing style: The Tour Z RPG is more forgiving than the Tour Z RPG Tour. If you are looking for a shaft that will help you hit the ball more consistently, then the Tour Z RPG is a good choice.
• Desired results: The Tour Z RPG Tour promotes a lower launch angle and more spin. If you are looking for more control and accuracy, then the Tour Z RPG Tour is a good choice.

Ultimately, the best way to choose the right model of the Accra Tour Z RPG is to try both shafts and see which one you prefer.

The Tour Z RPG features a number of innovative technologies that contribute to its performance. These include:

• A five-directional ultra-lightweight weave that provides stability and increases the rate of recovery.
• Multiple layers of high modulus composite materials that provide strength and feel.
• A low resin to graphite ratio that results in a lightweight and responsive shaft.

The Tour Z RPG is available in a variety of weights and flexes to fit golfers of all swing speeds. The following are the standard specs:

• Weight: 50-65 grams
• Flex: R, S, X

Pros & Cons

• Long and consistent distance
• High launch angle with low spin
• Stable and forgiving
• Smooth and effortless feel
• Can be too stiff for some players

Actual Player/User Comments

Here are some  comments from actual players who have used the Tour Z RPG shaft:

“This shaft is amazing! I’m hitting my drives longer and straighter than ever before.” “The Tour Z RPG is the most stable shaft I’ve ever used. I can really trust it on off-center hits.” “The Tour Z RPG feels so smooth and effortless. It’s like the club is just an extension of my arm.”

The 2024 Accra Tour Z RPG is a high-performance golf shaft that is designed for players who are looking for maximum distance and control. The shaft features a unique blend of materials and construction techniques that provide a combination of stability, power, and feel. If you are a player who is looking for a shaft that can help you hit longer and straighter drives, then the Tour Z RPG is a great option to consider.

Overall, the Accra Tour Z RPG is a great option for players who are looking for a high-performance golf shaft that can help them hit longer and straighter drives. The shaft is stable, powerful, and smooth, and it is available in a variety of weights and flexes to fit golfers of all swing speeds. If you are serious about your golf game, then the Tour Z RPG is a shaft that you should consider.

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ACCRA Tour Z Golf Shaft Review

Accra tour z driver shafts, by woody lashen, a golf digest america’s 100 best clubfitter pete’s golf, mineola, new york.

ACCRA started in 2002 as a Canadian distributor for Royal Precision and UST. In 2004 they started into the shaft business licensing the ACCRA brand name from UST. In 2007, they purchased the brand name and embarked on independent development of premium golf shafts distributed exclusively through certified ACCRA fitters.

I had a chance to talk to Gawain Robertson, co owner of ACCRA Golf, at the 2014 PGA Merchandise show about club fitting and ACCRA golf shafts.

ACCRA Tour Z CB Driver Shaft

The ACCRA Tour Z CB driver shaft is the latest addition to the Tour Z brand. Although it says “CB” in it’s name, this shaft is really not counter balanced. What ACCRA has done is raised the center of gravity (CG) to offer golfers a different “feel” and launch condition from their popular ST series. The Tour Z CB series of shafts was patterned after the extremely popular ACCRA XE and XC lines of shafts using updated materials and new design concepts.

The tip section in this shaft is slightly softer that the Tour Z ST and the torque is lower combined with the higher CG it promotes a ball flight that is only slightly higher than the ST (Mid) a spin rate that would be considered mid to low.

As with all Tour Z shafts, the CB offers Constant Flex Technology, ACCRA’s super Thin Wall design and the platinum band around the cool matte black finish certainly makes this shaft distinctive. What really makes this shaft stand out is the unique feel that is created by the combination of many technologies in one shaft.

 ACCRA Tour Z  ST Driver Shaft

ACCRA’s first introduction in the Tour Z line was originally named Tour Z+, with the introduction of the CB and LS lines it was renamed ST in 2013. This shaft was originally designed for a specific PGA Tour player who was looking for a very stable shaft from top to bottom but still wanted “feel”. ACCRA’s engineers tested many combinations to accomplish this the final design features a super thin wall design, something that has been incorporated in all ACCRA Tour Z shafts. The super high modulus materials enabled ACCRA engineers to use these thin wall structures that enhance energy transfer and feel to the golfer yet maintains strength and durability.

From a playability stand point, this shaft certainly accomplishes what it advertises.  The ST is Accra’s must popular shaft on tour with many players using the Tour Z ST 55 shaft as the stability of this shaft gives them the confidence of a heavier shaft in a 55 gram product that helps them generate more speed, without sacrificing control.

Once again, radial consistency was 99.2% with a .3% standard deviation. It does not get much better than that.

  ACCRA Tour Z LS Driver Shaft

The ACCRA Tour Z LS series of shafts was originally patterned after the shaft that brought ACCRA to prominence in the premium golf shaft market. The ACCRA SE and SC series of shafts each featured a responsive tip section combined with very low torque. This was revolutionary 10 years ago.

The Tour Z LS takes that philosophy and uses the latest in design and manufacturing techniques to produce and updated version of these classic ACCRA shafts. The first thing that a golfer feels with this shaft is the responsiveness (or kick) in the tip section, this is followed by the realization that this shaft offers tremendous stability from torsional strength in the tip section.

As with all ACCRA Tour Z shafts, the LS features Constant Flex Technology and the Super Thin Wall design, enabling professional Club Fitters to perfectly fit a golfer to flex, weight, ball flight and feel. This shaft has become popular for many levels of golfers as a fairway shaft and has also become and excellent option for golfers looking for a mid-high launch/low spin option.

Radial consistency was 99.3% with a .7% standard deviation, outstanding.

The Tour Z family offers many options for all different types of swings, as with any shaft, getting fit for them by a top fitter is critical to getting the maximum performance for them.

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The ACCRA TZ RPG Tour, takes the technology used to win the 2019 US Open and takes it to a new level of performance. What would make a US Open Champion switch from a great shaft that he had so much success with…….make it even better!

RPG Tour is Engineered to provide maximum performance for those that need it most. Designed for those with high club head speeds and looking for the ultimate combination of stability, power and feel.

Dubbed “RPG Gold” as it truly ranks as the gold standard of golf shafts, emphasizing quality, tight tolerances and exceptional performance.

The TZ RPG Tour features 10 of the most advanced composite materials using less resin content of any shaft that ACCRA has ever developed. The increased Composite material ratio by incorporated only Aerospace grade prepreg from Toray Japan ensures perfect symmetry, strength and power. Making the Tour Z RPG the smoothest feeling, ridiculously stability shaft in the industry.

Along with the high modulus materials a 360-degree 5 directional weave that stretches the entire length of the shaft has been incorporated to maximize torsional strength and increase the speed in which the shaft recovers.

ACCRA looked at the needs of PGA Tour players and discerning golfers given the playability of the latest driver and fairway wood heads. The TZ RPG Tour enables the world’s strongest golfers to control launch and spin while increasing clubhead speed through its unique design and material difference.

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Accra Tour Z X455

By Wondergiulio June 17, 2020 in Golf Balls/Shafts/Grips

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Just bought this shaft on EBay (Stiff) as backup to my TourAd TP5s (similar specs). My swing instructor has the 465 and I have to say the shaft is really good. I still felt it was a bit heavy for my late tennis elbow struggles so I choose to go lighter.  I just re grip it and will go on the course tmw (Bethpage Red).

Anyone has any experience with it?

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The Tour Z RPG is ACCRA’s most technologically advanced golf shaft ever. The new RPG shaft joins the Tour Z family of shafts as a standalone product designed for Tour yet playable for a wide variety of golfers.

No golf shaft company uses more advanced materials, has better consistency, or tighter tolerances than the Tour Z RPG!

Acceptance on the PGA Tour has been swift with both the 300 series and 400 series being trusted by some of the world’s best golfers.

The Tour Z RPG is available in two designs and several distinct weights, yet all feature a similar profile that promotes maximum energy transfer. The smooth transition from an extremely stable butt section to a responsive tip section is unique due to the addition of its radial strength and resistance to ovaling.

The Tour Z RPG features 9 of the most advanced composite materials using less resin content of any shaft that ACCRA has ever developed. ACCRA has incorporated only Aerospace grade prepreg from Toray Japan to ensure the perfect symmetry of strength and power. Making the Tour Z RPG the smoothest feeling, maximum stability shaft in the industry.

Along with the high modulus materials a 360-degree quad weave that stretches the entire length of the shaft has been incorporated to maximize torsional strength and increase the speed in which the shaft recovers.

ACCRA looked at the needs of PGA Tour players and discerning golfers given the playability of the latest driver and fairway wood heads. The Tour Z RPG enables golfers to control launch and spin while increasing clubhead speed through its higher CG design and material difference.

The Tour Z RPG incorporates ACCRA’s proprietary technologies such as a Uniform taper design (UTT) to maximize energy transfer and Constant flex technology to add consistency to the fitting process. A certified professional club fitter can incorporate ACCRA’s proprietary “DyMatch” technology by using the 400 series in a driver and a 300 series in fairway woods to achieve maximum and consistent launch characteristics throughout a golfers set.

The Tour Z RPG needs to be tested to understand it’s unique characteristics and to understand the “real” material and design benefits.

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Anyone played these two shafts extensively and compare launch conditions? 

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Ventus black is one of the lowest launching/spinning shafts on the market.  TZ5/6 both launch higher and spin a little more.  If you're looking for something that launches super low then go with Ventu

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I have played both (TZ6) extensively. TZ launches lightly higher and is a bit softer or more active feeling in the mid-section. Similar feels, though, in my opinion. Both great shafts and have gone back and forth between the two.

Im getting a TZ5 for driver and TZ6 for Fairway, I want to try the Ventus black but they carry a premium even on the used market. Everyone I speak to says the ACCRA are top quality, smooth feeling and flat out perform.. TZ5 Is typical Low/low shaft TZ6 is unique but has a active tip and is more Mid/low can help if you need to up launch angle. Ventus is obviously very well rated for being super stable 

Callaway Ai Smoke TD 9 Tensei 1k Orange 50TX Titleist TSR3 15 Accra Tz Five 75FW M5

Titleist TSR3 18 Accra Tz Five 75FW M5

Titleist U500 2 Iron Accra Tz Six 95D M5

Titleist U500 4 iron Project X 6.5 5 - AW Titleist T100s Project X 6.5 

Cleveland RTX Zip Raw, 54, FullFace 58 Project X 6.5 wedge

L.A.B Golf Mezz1 35/71 Garsen Quad Tour Titleist Pro V1X 2023

Keen to know more on these as well..

Callaway Tour Issue Paradym TD-S 8.5 (7.9) - Fujikura Ventus Black TR 5X

TaylorMade BRNR Mini (24) 13.5 - Fujikura Ventus Red TR 6X Taylormade Tour QI10 16.5 - Fujikura Ventus Blue 7X. PXG 0311X Gen 5 -  Fujikura Ventus Blue 9X

PXG 0317T - 4 - LAGP L-Series (5) X Miura KM-700  5-PW - LAGP L-Series (5) X PXG Milled "Sugar Daddy 2 " 50,54,60 - DG TI S400 Scotty Cameron Holiday LTD (23}/ LAGP 135 (White)  

11 hours ago, GoTime said: I have played both (TZ6) extensively. TZ launches lightly higher and is a bit softer or more active feeling in the mid-section. Similar feels, though, in my opinion. Both great shafts and have gone back and forth between the two.

Do you have specific numbers on how much higher the TZ6 was? Talking 1-2* launch? Or just the perception from on the course?

3 minutes ago, osubuckeyes691 said: Do you have specific numbers on how much higher the TZ6 was? Talking 1-2* launch? Or just the perception from on the course?

Sorry just eyeball-on-course experience. I would say for me personally the TZ6 is longer due to low/mid launch and low spin where as ventus launches lower and I have to actively work to get it higher. I would say shot for shot the TZ6 apex is....20 feet higher? 30? Just a guess.

For me the TZ6 feels slightly active whereas the Ventus just feels stable and secure, not really an active feeling. That's the biggest difference IMO.

Ventus black is one of the lowest launching/spinning shafts on the market.  TZ5/6 both launch higher and spin a little more.  If you're looking for something that launches super low then go with Ventus black.  If you need something that launches about 2-3* higher and softer in the tip, then the TZ series would be your best bet.  This is based off of trackman numbers for myself last year. 

Callaway AI Smoke Paradym 💎 💎 💎 9* - Tour AD VF-7TX

TM Qi10 Tour 15* - Diamana GT 80TX

TM Tour Issue Rescue 11 TP Deep Face Proto 16* - Ventus Black HB 9TX

New Level NLU-01 21* - KBS Hybrid Proto 105X

New Level 623-M 5-PW - MMT 125TX

Miura Tour 54* HB - KBS 610 125 S+, New Level SPN forged M-grind 58* - KBS Tour 130X

Scotty Cameron Studio Select Newport 2

3 minutes ago, phizzy30 said: Ventus black is one of the lowest launching/spinning shafts on the market.  TZ5/6 both launch higher and spin a little more.  If you're looking for something that launches super low then go with Ventus black.  If you need something that launches about 2-3* higher and softer in the tip, then the TZ series would be your best bet.  This is based off of trackman numbers for myself last year.   

I (along with many others from what I’ve heard) don’t find the Ventus Black to be all that low launching. I’ve been playing this shaft a lot and I can very easily launch it 14° or slightly higher. It’s incredibly consistent on launch and spin which is why I love it, but I’m hoping to find something that provides a little bit more feel without launching too much higher 

2 minutes ago, osubuckeyes691 said: I (along with many others from what I’ve heard) don’t find the Ventus Black to be all that low launching. I’ve been playing this shaft a lot and I can very easily launch it 14° or slightly higher. It’s incredibly consistent on launch and spin which is why I love it, but I’m hoping to find something that provides a little bit more feel without launching too much higher 

I'm going by my trackman numbers in terms of launch and spin.  I think the Ventus black has plenty of feel especially if you compare it to shafts like the DI, Rogue 125 msi, GD BB, and PX Hulk Green which I have either tested or gamed.  You're current gamer in your sig is has great feel as well. 

I have gamed both and they are similar for me.  I would say the Accra tz5 spins and launches only slightly higher but almost the same as ventus black 6x.  both untipped for me.  I prefer the feel of the Accra.  Not many feel like it and can still spin low.  By no means does the Ventus feel bad, just Accra is and always has been different for me.  

On 1/31/2021 at 7:57 PM, osubuckeyes691 said: Anyone played these two shafts extensively and compare launch conditions? 

What weight/flexes are you asking about? It's important to note that both the TZ5/6 are +/-10g heavier at relative classifications when compared to the Ventus (e.g., Ventus '6' vs. TZ5/6 '65'). Another 1 to throw into the mix is the Accra Tour Z RPG

All 3 of these shafts are top-notch! Both the Accra's have significantly stiffer handle sections vs. the Ventus; mid-sections are similar across the 3 profiles; the TZ5 & Ventus have similarly stout tips whereas the TZ6 is a unicorn in the sense that is has a very active tip BUT super low torque. 

DM me if you're interested in any of these shafts and what you'd be willing to spend. I may have a what you're looking for that I haven't gotten around to posting to the general classifieds forum yet.  

• 4 months later...

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On 2/1/2021 at 8:51 AM, osubuckeyes691 said: I (along with many others from what I’ve heard) don’t find the Ventus Black to be all that low launching. I’ve been playing this shaft a lot and I can very easily launch it 14° or slightly higher. It’s incredibly consistent on launch and spin which is why I love it, but I’m hoping to find something that provides a little bit more feel without launching too much higher 

I am right there with you. I am launching my 6x at 15.5°. 3000 spin. Epic flash 9° head. 109-114 SS.   I can’t go stiffer. Could use a a little lower launch. 

LeftyMatt24

On 2/2/2021 at 11:18 AM, eth4and said: What weight/flexes are you asking about? It's important to note that both the TZ5/6 are +/-10g heavier at relative classifications when compared to the Ventus (e.g., Ventus '6' vs. TZ5/6 '65'). Another 1 to throw into the mix is the Accra Tour Z RPG   All 3 of these shafts are top-notch! Both the Accra's have significantly stiffer handle sections vs. the Ventus; mid-sections are similar across the 3 profiles; the TZ5 & Ventus have similarly stout tips whereas the TZ6 is a unicorn in the sense that is has a very active tip BUT super low torque.    DM me if you're interested in any of these shafts and what you'd be willing to spend. I may have a what you're looking for that I haven't gotten around to posting to the general classifieds forum yet.    

I disagree with the tz6 Is tip soft. Check out the comparison of Ventus black 6x (black), TZ6 75 m5 (dark grey) and a White profile xt 70tx. TZ6 in the tip is basically the same. The area before the tip is softer but the tip itself is stiff. The butt is extremely more stiff than Ventus black.   

thank you Valtiel for the graph. 

Driver:    TSR3 8 Ventus Red TR 8X 

Fairway:   TS2 16.5 Ventus Red TR 8X 

Hybrid:   Sim2 Tensei Orange 90TX Or Srixon ZX 2 ADDI 105X

Irons: Black T200 4-5 T100S 6-AW MMT 125TX

Wedges: MG4 54 MMT 125TX and Vokey SM9 58.04T MMT 125TX

Putter:   Lajosi DD201

Pro V1X Left Dash

• 3 months later...

On 6/5/2021 at 2:00 PM, LeftyMatt24 said: I disagree with the tz6 Is tip soft. Check out the comparison of Ventus black 6x (black), TZ6 75 m5 (dark grey) and a White profile xt 70tx. TZ6 in the tip is basically the same. The area before the tip is softer but the tip itself is stiff. The butt is extremely more stiff than Ventus black.    thank you Valtiel for the graph. 

This is why I love TZ6 that solid handle and nice smooth stable drop and then that tip. Thanks for posting this 

PXG GEN6 0311 10.5*DRIVER/FUJI RED VELOCORE 6S/GP TW WHT

PXG GEN5 0311XF 17*FAIRWAY/FUJI MOTORE X F3 7S/GP TW WHT

PXG GEN3 0311XP 3 IRON/TT ELEVATE TOUR S/WINN DT WRAP

PXG GEN3 0311P 4-PW/TT ELEVATE TOUR S/WINN DT WRAP

PXG GEN4 0311P GW/TT ELEVATE TOUR S/WINN DT WRAP

PXG SD II WEDGES/56/13&62/10/TT ELEVATE TOUR S/GP TW BLK

MACHINE M2A 1018RAW CS PUTTER/ACCRA I-STEEL/SS FLAT 1.0

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Can't help except to say I love the TZ6. It's not a Low launching shaft in my opinion. I would say mid ish .. 

I currently game the tz5 75 m5 in the driver and the tz5 85 m5 in my 5wood bumped down to 4w loft. Love this shaft and have for a few years now. I would call it a mid launch, low spin option. I load pretty hard from the top of my backswing and it just handles it no problem.

Have tried the ventus black in 6x as well as 7x in the driver and just couldn't get it to agree with me. Tried the blue as well and same result. Feel was great but it just didn't blow my mind. I've tried the 7x in a fairway wood and got pretty good performance out of it, but the tz5 is just better. Distance was very similar but dispersion was better with the tz5. Several of my buddies game ventus black in 6x/7x and swear by it.

• 6 months later...

Curious now how the black tr compares

Driver:  Callaway Epic Max LS with KBS TD Cat 4 44.5" 

4w : '22 Rogue ST LS 16.5  Tensei AV Blue 75x

7w: '22 Callaway Apex UW 21 80s MMT

DI:  Caley 01X 18* with KBS PGH 95

4-AW: PXG OG  0211  with KBS Tour Stiff 2.5* up 3/4" long MOI matched

Wedges:  Cleveland Zipcore 54 Full/58 Mid  

Putter:   DF2.1 35"69* in blue

Ball:  Snell Prime 4.0

On 8/10/2022 at 8:14 PM, Rbsiedsc said: Curious now how the black tr compares

I'm about a week from having an answer for this question.

Ping G430 LST 10.5 Ventus Blue TR 6TX

Titleist TSR3 16.5 Ventus Blue TR 7TX

Ping G430 4H Ventus Black 9TX

Srixon ZX7 MkII 4-P Project X 6.5

Cleveland RTX6 Zipcore 50, 55, 60 Project X 6.5 LAB Mezz Max CB TPT

• 1 month later...

On 3/3/2023 at 8:53 AM, Tyrick24 said: I'm about a week from having an answer for this question.

Any updates?

Callaway AI Smoke TD 8* Denali Blue 60tx

Sim Ti 14* Fuji Speeder TR 757x

Stealth Plus 18* Ventus Black 8x

Mizuno 223 4-PW PX  LS 6.5

SM9 50/12F, 54/12D, 59/5T PX Wedge 6.5

Scotty Cameron Golo 6.5 Stability Shaft

50 minutes ago, mcc0819 said: Any updates?

Order fell through as the seller "oversold" the limited edition 'Merica one I was getting. Never got it.

• 3 weeks later...

Bumping this thread as I am thinking about possibly trying a tz6 as something to turn over more. The question i have, do I go M4 or M5 considering I am in a 6x in ventus black.

Don't get me wrong, I am clearing out the cobwebs of my swing and the Ventus is having its moments coming back, although if my swing is off I worry my driving game will suffer.

• 5 weeks later...

I tested both TZ5 M4 and TR 6S. Surprisingly, I didn’t have any problem launching either of these shafts. I hit my irons high but not my driver, so that was interesting. Typically, I fade the ball and both drivers were going relatively straight. I ended up purchasing both. Will continue to test and for the next week or two. I’ll report back…

• 2 weeks later...

Any updates from anyone , not a ton of info wise on the tz5 

Driver  Testing 

3w  Stealth 2 + 15* Ventus Red 9x tipped 2" 43”  

2i TMAG P790 2i Hzdus 100g X  

Titleist  MB 620 3-PW (47* PW) PX 7.0 Std Length -2 flat from Titleist Spec 

Vokey - Testing 

Putter  OPEN   

Absolutely loving the TZ5. I feel I can really attack it and the head doesn’t get behind me like I’ve felt with other shafts.

My club head speed typically hovers between 108-112 and I’ve been very comfortable in the 70g.  TZ5 is definitely a keeper.

On 8/10/2022 at 6:14 PM, Rbsiedsc said: Curious now how the black tr compares

I'm a bit late replying to your post, but the TR Black is the bomb.  Took it out for the first time today at Los Serranos, North course.  Think of Ventus Black but way smoother yet still very linear.  Same launch/spin.  Very anti-left for me which is a god send.  Longest drive measured at 323 yards.  I think I'm set for the rest of the year. 

11 hours ago, phizzy30 said: I'm a bit late replying to your post, but the TR Black is the bomb.  Took it out for the first time today at Los Serranos, North course.  Think of Ventus Black but way smoother yet still very linear.  Same launch/spin.  Very anti-left for me which is a god send.  Longest drive measured at 323 yards.  I think I'm set for the rest of the year. 

With how you go through shafts I’ll believe it when I see it. 😝 That’s cool though. Really enjoying my black now as my swing has come back. Have been hitting a straight to a slight baby draw with it. Unfortunately I dread the right miss even though I can over cook the left hook. 

1 hour ago, Rbsiedsc said: With how you go through shafts I’ll believe it when I see it. 😝 That’s cool though. Really enjoying my black now as my swing has come back. Have been hitting a straight to a slight baby draw with it. Unfortunately I dread the right miss even though I can over cook the left hook. 

You're on to me, LOL.  I seriously hope that MCA, Fuji or GD doesn't come out with a new low/low shaft anytime soon.  I loved the OG Black and it spit out really good numbers on trackman, but didn't care for the feel.  TR Black has all the good stuff plus feels so smooth. 

• 7 months later...

On 2/1/2021 at 5:46 AM, phizzy30 said: Ventus black is one of the lowest launching/spinning shafts on the market.  TZ5/6 both launch higher and spin a little more.  If you're looking for something that launches super low then go with Ventus black.  If you need something that launches about 2-3* higher and softer in the tip, then the TZ series would be your best bet.  This is based off of trackman numbers for myself last year.   

Agree on this. Has a range session today. Eyeballing my Ventus black 6x vs accra tz5 m4 I was launching the accra higher. Also seemed to get more distance and was easier to swing. May have to see if it can knock out the Ventus.   

• 4 weeks later...

Been trotting mine back out since as it’s warming up here. Really a fan of this shaft (TZ Five 70 M4). I own 3 driver shafts currently (this along with Diamana WB 63X and Tensei 1K Black 65X). 1K was gamer most of last year (only got the TZ Five in september) and this plays pretty similar (launch+spin) but I prefer the feel of the Accra to the 1k as it’s noticeably smoother - the 1K is a good fit for me but it can feel boardier than it actually is. With the Accra, I do seem to hit the odd ball that spins significantly more and doesn’t go very far, which I have not noticed to be a pattern with the 1K. That said, this one is forgiving directionally. Really good shaft which flies under the radar online.

Titleist TSR2 10* - Tensei 1K Black 65 X

TM SIM2 Ti 15* - Tensei AV Raw White 75 TX

TM M5 Ti 19* - Tour AD DI 8 X

TM P7MC 4-P - X100

Ping Glide PF 50*, Epon Tour M  56*, 60*- Modus 125 W

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