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John Bell / 19 October 2023

Stage Times: The Menzingers

Guitarist and vocalist Tom May talks through the Philadelphia punk rockers’ gigging highlights

The Menzingers first popped up in the sweaty basements of Scranton, Pennsylvania, in the mid-noughties, performing to crowds that were just like them: bright-eyed kids addicted to punk rock. In the 15 years that have passed, the band have continued to reflect the audiences in front of them with songs that have charted the growing pains of life’s journey, from approaching 30 on 2017’s After the Party to embracing maturity on 2019’s Hello Exile .

On their seventh studio album, Some Of It Was True , The Menzingers are a little older, a little wiser, but continue to show that it’s OK to have not fully found yourself. “Nothing is final,” is the manta on ‘Nobody Stays’. “Live in the question/ There is no answer.”

“I hope that we’ll never stop learning or never stop being curious,” says guitarist and vocalist Tom May. “And with this age – our mid 30s – we’ve seen so much that, when examining your life, you can’t help but take some things away from it. There’s a wisdom that’s there just inevitably from being around so long. On this album, a lot of the confusion that existed in the relaying of our lives in the previous records, is now acceptance of that confusion. We decided that the one thing that’s going to remain constant is the change and the inability to fully wrestle with it.”

With The Menzingers bringing Some Of It Was True on a UK tour in February, we sat down with May to look back at their gigging careers, from Las Vegas strip clubs to life-affirming homecoming shows.

The gig that made you want to perform

I’m probably gonna misremember this and take from a couple of shows and turn them into one, so we’ll stay on the theme of the new record of the unreliable narrator. When I was probably 13 or 14, I went to a couple of local punk shows, and there was this band called Obsolete, and a local band called Wonder Dog from Scranton, playing a show in a warehouse called Homebase in Wilkes-Barre, which is a little bit further away from where we grew up. My best friend’s older brother took us there and we had seen Green Day and blink-182 music videos, so we had this appreciation for the aesthetic of punk rock – it seemed like the social scene that you wanted to be around because it was exciting and it felt powerful. I went to these shows and there was no one in charge, it was just like everyone knew each other. The person who took us, Jody Mayer, knew the bands that were playing, and was like, “Yeah, you know, that bass player is my cousin’s boyfriend” or something like that. Just realising that there was an entire world to unlock that you could be a part of. If I was gonna be on, say, a soccer team, there’s a coach, a facility and a framework that runs everything. This was something that was just kind of out there in the open, and it was exciting and violent. It was dark and started to be a little bit brooding. It was rebellious. And that was really what drew me to shows and punk rock things in the first place.

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All of us in The Menzingers had played in other bands. For our age, we had played a lot of shows and we had put on a lot of our own shows. We were the ones who rented out the church basement and halls; we would be able to rent out a community centre, put on your own show, charge money at the door, don’t charge money, or whatever. So we’d already been a little bit, not jaded, but you know, educated and pipelined in the whole thing. Our first couple of shows were mostly at a place in Wilkes-Barre, called Cafe Metropolis. And that was a DIY-ish venue, so it had like a little cafe in the front, and then in the back was just a show space with your smashed plywood walls and a rinky-dink PA system hanging up on some chains. But there were so many people in the area that we grew up who were hungry for this kind of thing, that national touring acts would come. So the first couple of our shows, we opened up for some bigger ska bands.

Then we had done headlines of our own. And we would just ride high all the way home – like, yeah, we’re actually doing the music that we want to do and there are people that come to see us. So we were kind of out the gate had a bit of a built-in fan base. But that was our first couple of shows, and back then we toggled around three or four names before we needed to settle on one. So we would choose a different name for the first couple of shows we played.

The biggest

Yeah, the Roundhouse in Camden was our biggest show. There were nearly 3000 people in the audience, in a legendary venue that we’d watched videos of our favourite artists playing there. There are famous photos of The Clash and f*cking Pink Floyd playing there. There are even historical posters and little tidbits in the backstage explaining where the venue came from – it was literally a train roundhouse.

It was like, this is such a huge, respectful, incredible event and we worried about it the entire time. And then when we started to play and it felt f*cking incredible. That’s like a legacy situation, you know, I can say “Yeah, in my 30s my band headlined the Roundhouse in London.”

That was actually kind of crazy, because Greg, who sings more songs than I do, had a horrible cold, cough and flu situation, and we had to get a rock doctor to come in, so tensions were very high. It was really built up. And then when we finally went on stage, the first vocals hit, the first song started to play and the lights came on over the crowd. It was really just a release.

The smallest

Anything small in the United States is not necessarily going to be as small to you in the UK, as I’ve learned over the years, but in 2008 we moved to Philadelphia, right at the beginning of the global financial crisis. That lead to a scene where we weren’t playing bars and regular venues as much as we would, because nobody had the money to go out. But we also lived in neighbourhoods that were, you know, rougher, and there were more empty houses and all kinds of weird situations. So we played a lot of shows in basements, all over those sections of Philadelphia. I think the smallest was in our good friends, Keith and Chelsea Jasco’s basement on New Year’s Eve of 2008 into 2009. It was a very small Philadelphia rowhome basement with a ceiling that only I can fit in (I’m about 5’6), and it was just slam-full of all of our friends. And there was barely any space to move. I’m pretty sure somebody smashed out a light bulb really quickly. That was probably the smallest space that we ever played.

The weirdest

Oh, I’ve got some real f*cking weird ones, between people’s birthday parties in random states to playing a boat in Bristol that started leaking from the ceiling. That was a recent one, I do’’t want to throw anybody under the bus for that one.

But maybe one of the weirdest – at the time it was certainly the weirdest – in 2010, we did our first West Coast tour with our friends in Broadway Calls, and once we played two shows in Las Vegas in one day. One was a squat with no power and, I think, no running water, right next to one of the Air Force Bases. So we’re playing in the squat, it’s an abandoned house, there’s sand everywhere, and military planes flying over us while we’re playing. After that, we played The Penthouse Club, which is like a corporate strip club. We were playing with this older ska band from the West Coast called Voodoo Glow Skulls, that we had liked when we were younger. We played on a stage to basically no one, and there were plush couches, 20-30ft poles that went to the ceilings and dancers. It was just weird.

The worst show for me was when we played at Saint Vitus Bar in June 2013. Saint Vitus is this tiny 200-person venue in Brooklyn that has connections to the industry, and is owned by cool people. So, there are always these insane shows that happened there, like Metallica [and Nirvana]. It sounded really cool, and we get there, and the vibe was just wrong. The front-of-house guy had just come from a 24-hour Grammy party or something, and was hammered. Completely useless, pissing off the opening bands, pissing us off. It was just a weird vibe all around, we couldn’t get anything done. There were all these weird kind of stipulations and equipment issues that went into it, and I was having a weird time in my relationship at the time, all kinds of shit was going down, so I drank whiskey instead of beer while everyone else was playing. It was right at our peak; before we played bigger venues with barricades and security, and just more normal people.

This show got really out of hand and my microphone kept smashing me in the face. It was the only show I could think of that I spent the entire show angry. That’s why I was the worst show for me. That show was angry, and I started getting angry at the band.

Could the rest of the band tell you were in a bad mood?

Oh yeah, they knew. I think I pushed someone, and one of the band members was like, “What the f*ck are you doing?” And they were giving me the side eye before we went on stage for hitting the whiskey too hard. I also had this t-shirt on that was digging into my armpits, too. I’m gonna blame it on the moon. Maybe the stars were all f*cked up that day.

We’ve been fortunate enough to have some incredible shows, but my favourite show that we’ve ever played was on 31 March 2017 at the Fillmore in Philadelphia, with Jeff Rosenstock and Rozwell Kid. It was a venue that had just opened up in Philadelphia as a huge, enormous, beautiful space with a brand-new sound system. We sold the show out far enough in advance to where we were just f*cking excited for it. It was not long after we had released After the Party , and it felt like the whole city was rooting for us – they wanted to show up for us, and we showed up for them.

I remember before we played the show, walking onto the stage and looking at how big the room was with one of my good friends and she said, “I can’t believe you went from where you guys were in 2008 to here, now, selling out this show” and it really kind of put it all into perspective for me. Then, the set that we played was just electric, it just felt like a new type of collective consciousness, locked in with the crowd. And they painted our name on the wall because we sold it out, so it ticked all the boxes.

Some Of It Was True is out now via Epitaph records. The Menzingers tour the UK in February 2024 – find tickets here

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The Menzingers announce four UK shows in October following their tour with The Bouncing Souls and Bayside

The Menzingers have announced four UK shows in October.

The Philadelphia punk outfit will tour North America with Bayside in August, and will also hit Europe with The Bouncing Souls in September before their UK run with solo artist Roger Harvey the following month.

They recently finished recording their fifth album After The Party – the follow-up to 2014’s Rented World . It’s due for release later this year.

The Menzingers said: “We finished tracking After the Party , our fifth album with Will Yip, at Studio 4. We’ve never been more proud of anything in our lives and can’t thank Will enough for totally crushing this record. Can’t wait to share this shit with y’all.”

Album release details will be available in due course.

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Jun 18: Scranton Vault Tap, PA Aug 11: Fort Lauderdale Revolution, FL Aug 12: Orlando Hard Rock Live, FL Aug 14: Charlotte Amos Southend, NC Aug 16: Norfolk NorVa, VA Aug 17: Baltimore Rams Head Live, MD Aug 18: Philadelphia Electric Factory, PA Aug 19: New York Playstation Theater, NY Aug 20: Sayreville Starland Ballroom, NJ Aug 21: Boston House Of Blues, MA Aug 23: Pittsburgh Altar Bar, PA Aug 24: Cleveland Agora Theater, OH Aug 25: Toronto Opera House, Canada Aug 26: Detroit Majestic Theatre, MI Aug 27: Tinley Park Convention Center, IL Aug 28: Minneapolis Mill City Nights, MN Aug 30: Denver Ogden Theatre, CO Sep 02: Seattle Showbox, WA Sep 04: San Francisco Regency, CA Sep 06: Santa Ana Observatory, CA Sep 07: Los Angeles Regent Theater, CA Sep 08: San Diego Observatory North Park, CA Sep 09: Las Vegas Brookyln Bowl, NV Sep 10: Phoenix Pressroom, AZ Sep 11: Albuquerque Sunshine Theater, NM Sep 13: San Antonio Aztec Theatre, TX Sep 14: Houston House Of Blues, TX Sep 15: Dallas Gas Monkey Bar N Grill, TX Sep 16: Lawrence Granada, KS Sep 17: St Louis Ready Room, MO Sep 28: Hamburg Marthalle, Germany Sep 30: Hanover Faust, Germany Oct 01: Amsterdam Melkweg, Netherlands Oct 02: Antwerpen Zappa, Belgium Oct 04: Cologne Luxor, Germany Oct 05: Karlsruhe Substage, Germany Oct 06: Lindau Club Vaudeville, Germany Oct 07: Schweinfurt Alter Stattbahnof, Germany Oct 08: Munich Backstage Halle, Germany Oct 09: Vienna Arena, Austria Oct 12: London Scala, UK Oct 13: Nottingham Rescue Rooms, UK Oct 14: Edinburgh Teviot Underground, UK Oct 15: Leeds Brudenell Social Club, Leeds Oct 28: Gainesville Fest, FL

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The Menzingers: “I don’t know many bands who are all best friends. It’s crazy how close we are after all these years”

Pennsylvania quartet The Menzingers aren’t just one of punk rock’s modern success stories, they’re also one of its great survivors. On the eve of their seventh album, Some Of It Was True, vocalist Greg Barnett tells K! how they do it…

For post-hardcore fans of a certain age, listening to The Menzingers can feel like an ongoing rite of passage. Their breakthrough third album, 2012’s On The Impossible Past, announced them to the world as smart punks with a sense of humour who weren’t afraid to do their growing up in public. Since then, they’ve built a committed global fanbase by writing songs that are best known for being anthemic and cathartic, selling out increasingly bigger venues as their seemingly indefatigable commitment to touring the world continues.

The fact they’ve done this with such dependable consistency makes it all the more remarkable. In a world where bands frequently fall apart for all the wrong reasons and fail to realise their potential, The Menzingers’ unchanged line-up of four friends from an unfancied part of the U.S. – Scranton, Pennsylvania – seems stronger than ever. So Kerrang! sat down with frontman Greg Barnett to try to get to the bottom of what exactly makes the band tick and what literally keeps their show on the road…

Your new album, Some Of It Was True , will be your seventh. How do you approach writing and recording to keep it interesting for yourselves? “Naturally you have to look at the things that you’ve done as a band and where you want to go. We’re always looking toward the future and what we want to achieve. And then there’s a lot of not doing that, of just letting things come out naturally and writing about what you know and what you feel in the moment. When we start writing an album, we always get together and start throwing ideas around. ‘What did we do last time that we want to change? What did we go for that we didn’t achieve?’ We set boundaries and then we blow them up, basically ( laughs ).”

How did you blow things up this time? “At first, it was like, ‘No slow songs!’, but we love writing slow songs ( laughs ). We’d be jamming and, like, ‘Speed it up, speed it up’, then Come On, Heartache comes around and we were, like, ‘Okay, this is good…’”

The narrative for artists is increasingly that nowadays you have to be a live band to survive. How has that affected how you work? “There’s a delicate balance [with setlists] where you don’t want to just cater for your fans, because you want to be able to challenge the audience and challenge yourselves. Maybe in the past we’d play a new song and people weren’t going crazy, so we’d switch it out for another song. Not so much, anymore. It’s funny, I noticed it on [2019 album] Hello Exile , playing those songs live, it took a while for them to catch on and now when we play America (You’re Freaking Me Out) it’s probably the biggest song of the night. It usually takes a couple shows before we figure out the new core of a setlist. You know pretty quickly when a transition was weird, so I’ll take everyone’s notes, re-write the set and pitch it back. It’s all about getting the right feel.”

Your line-up is unchanged since your formation in 2006. How much of a democracy are you? “We’re completely democratic, but there are certain things that different people take leadership over. Eric [Keen, bass] has always been the art guy. I do a lot of songwriting, but we all write songs, so that one’s a little complicated… Tom [May, guitar and vocals] is the finance guy. He genuinely likes to do taxes! And he’s so good at it! That kind of stuff is so important in a band, like being able to manage a tour budget. We all take on roles, but at the end of the day we all have an equal vote in every little thing, much to our manager’s dismay. Simple things become very long debates, because you have four very strong opinions going into everything. It’s easy to be a dictator in a band, but that would never work for us.”

How easy is it for you all to stay friends outside of your work? “Weirdly easy. When people ask what makes us different from others bands, I don’t know many bands who are all best friends. We hang out all the time. Everybody has their own friend group, but… not really ( laughs ). It’s still just all of us. We all get on each other’s nerves, but in a family-type way. You go through phases, then you realise, ‘Who cares? What are we even fighting over? Ordering dinner?!’ We all moved to Philly in 2008 and lived together for a long time. Now we all live less than a mile from each other. It’s kinda crazy how close we are after all these years.”

Band life has changed a lot since The Menzingers formed. Do you think there are any constants for longevity and success? “I probably have a different answer every six months, but what I always, truly believe is that the songs matter the most. Social media and making content has its place, but if you focus on your songs, an audience will come. That’s being tested more and more because of algorithms. The best songs don’t always pop through. So I lose some arguments sometimes ( laughs ). It’s hard to cut through the noise in 2023, but I still believe that if you have good songs then whatever you need will come. Just focus on your music and be yourself.”

Some Of It Was True is released on October 13 via Epitaph. The Menzingers tour the UK next February – get your tickets now.

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Gregor Barnett of The Menzingers announces solo tour dates

Gregor Barnett of The Menzingers has announced solo tour dates for North American, the UK, and Ireland. Roger Harvey will be playing support on all North American dates. Gregor Barnett will be releasing his solo album Don't Go Throwing Roses In My Grave February 18 via Epitaph Records . Check out the dates below.

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