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Dodge Journey Problems: 8 Common Issues (Explained)

The most common problems and possible solutions are listed below.

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Remote Keyless Entry System Works Intermittently

If your remote keyless entry system starts acting weird and only working sometimes, you might get frustrated.

It’s a huge inconvenience not to have technology work the way you expect it to. But, there’s an easy fix for the problem.

Probable Causes and Solutions

The most common reason your Dodge Journey remote keyless entry system may begin working intermittently is because there is a problem with the component’s software .

Usually, updating the software will correct the problem.

If you upgrade the software and continue to have problems with the remote keyless ignition system, you should visit a Dodge dealership and have the problem diagnosed.

If the problem isn’t related to a software update, it could be an issue with the keyfob itself. If the keyfob has gone bad, it might be necessary to replace the keyfob.

A Dodge-certified technician can also upgrade the software for you.

Unexplained Dampness Inside a Dodge Journey

If you enter your vehicle and notice unexplained dampness, it could create an uncomfortable ride and be upsetting. Afterall, water isn’t supposed to leak inside a vehicle.

But unexplained dampness inside the vehicle of the Journey is a common problem, and is easily fixed.

Most often, especially in models 2009 to 2018, unexplained dampness in the interior of the Journey is from a water leak .

Improperly sealed body seams can let water into the vehicle and create dampness.

If this is the reason your Journey is getting wet inside, the problem can be fixed by having the seals replaced and properly installed.

Engine Overheating Due to Coolant Flow Problem

If your Dodge Journey was made between 2009 and 2018, you may have issues with your engine overheating. It seems the problem can occur at anytime during the Journey’s existence.

Vehicles with as low as 20,000 miles have experienced this issue as well as Journeys with well over 100,000 miles too.

Usually, it needs diagnosed by a Dodge mechanic. But, there are easy solutions to prevent this problem from happening again.

If you have debris in your engine, it could cause a coolant flow issue.

If there’s a disruption in your coolant flow, the engine could overheat.

If not corrected, an engine overheating could cause serious damage to the engine. When debris blocks the cylinder head at the coolant port of the thermostat housing, the right amount of coolant won’t reach the engine.

Removing the debris from the engine and especially around this port fixes the problem.

Check Engine Light with Diagnostic Code P0339

If your check engine light comes on, it’s a good idea to have a diagnostic test to determine what the cause of the warning is.

If you get a P0339 code, there is probably a problem with the vehicle’s crankshaft position sensor.

This issue is most common with 2009, 2010, 2012, and 2016 Dodge Journeys. Also, check our list of typical reasons the check engine light appears .

The crankshaft position sensor check engine light code will cause intermittent loss of power to this component.

To correct this problem, a technician may be able to add a shim to the crankshaft sensor .

If this does not correct the problem, it might be necessary to replace the sensor and flex plate.

Inaccurate Speed Settings and/or Excessive RPMs

If you notice your Journey is revving high or showing that you’re driving excessively, you might have a problem with the vehicle’s powertrain control module (PCM).

This is even more likely if you notice the problem when using cruise control.

Thankfully, inaccurate speed settings and unusually high RPMs can be related to an issue with the Journey’s software.

In most cases, updating the software for the powertrain control module (PCM) will correct the problem.

Updating the software can be done at a Dodge dealership.

Dodge Journey Seats Showing Signs of Corrosion

Dodge Journey 2009, 2010, and 2013 Journeys may show signs of wear, specifically around the seat frames.

If you notice rust around the vehicle’s seat frames, it’s important not to ignore the problem.

Instead, you should take the vehicle to a Dodge dealership to have corrosion inhibitor in the affected areas. There are also revised covers for the second row available to help prevent the issue from progressing.

Rough Idle after Cold Start on Dodge Journey with V6 Engines

2009 and 2010 Dodge Journey drivers have reported rough idling after a cold start .

The problem usually only occurs with Journeys equipped with a V6 engine.

Sometimes when this happens, a check engine light will come on. Diagnostic testing will show code P050D.

If your vehicle is showing a P050D diagnostic code, the rough idling after a cold start could be due to a problem with the powertrain control module (PCM).

After a mechanic diagnoses the problem, they can tell you whether a software upgrade will correct the issue, or if a replacement part is needed.

Dodge Journey is Stuck in Park

There’s nothing more frustrating then getting in your vehicle and realizing it won’t start. If your Journey is stuck in park, you will need to see a technician to have the problem corrected.

Dodge is aware of this problem and has issued a recall to correct the issue.

A Journey shifter getting stuck in park is likely due to the material used to create the shifter .

Making an appointment at a Dodge dealership will give technicians the opportunity to replace the parts and ensure you’re vehicle shifts every time you need it too.

Dodge Journey Brakes Wearing Out Prematurely

Some people go through brake pads faster than others, but if you drive a Dodge Journey, it might not be your fault. When the car manufacturer created the 2009 and 2010 Journeys, they did so with the best SUV technology and developed a crossover vehicle that was pleasurable to drive.

But they added brakes that were more suitable to a sedan.

The sedan brakes created a need for new brakes at just about 12,000 miles.

Dodge drivers filed a class-action lawsuit that extended the warranty of the vehicle’s brakes by three years.

If you notice your brakes have worn out quickly on your Journey, it’s a good idea to have them checked out.

Of course, it’s also important to have the parts replaced as needed to ensure the vehicle is safe to drive.

General Pros and Cons of the Dodge Journey

• Third-row seating
• Easy to drive
• Handles well
• Lots of storage compartments
• Optional V6 engine available
• Attractive styling
• Comfortable interior
• Problems with electronics
• Water leaks
• Rough idling
• Vehicle gets stuck in park
• RPMs revving too high
• Early corrosion on components
• Brakes wearing out prematurely

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Rough idling

By tyre November 10, 2011 in Engine & Transmission

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So we have had our new 2012 Journey SXT 3.6l for about 2 mths and 2500km. For the last month or so we've noticed a shake in the vehicle when it idles. My wife notices it more when it first starts, it is very noticeable after it warms up and sitting in a drive thru for more than a few minutes.

We took it in and of course no one noticed it, went to Tim Horton's after leaving the dealership and it was so noticeable I was more than a little po'd at the dealership. I called our sales guy, he wanted to see it so I took it down to him and he noticed it (not at it's worst mind you), he seems to think it's because we are using 87 octane gas and suggested going through a full tank of Shell V-Power ( or whatever the best one is they have) and then going to a mid-grade from Shell. I've been reading using the 89 octane will give us better mileage and performance so I will likely switch to that. My wife is furious though and thinks the salesman is full shit and feels like we are being treated as nit-picky (we've had other problems, that the dealership either didn't see or said they fixed and didn't).

Can anyone confirm that 87 octane would cause a rough idling? It's going to take us months to burn through 2 full tanks of gas and I'm concerned we are being brushed off.

Thanks for any input.

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I have used Shell "bronze" 87 exclusively for the last 7 yrs and have never experienced

a rough idle and I am using it now in my '11 DJ SXT Pentastar again I am not experiencing

a rough idle at the 3000 km mark.

I might suggest you fill up at different stations to see if possibly your buying gas with

high humidity/water content if you have used the same station.

Generally Chrysler has always advised that you should use the octane the motor is

designed to use,you might also want to try a can of gasline antifreeze to see if that

creates a change.

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I recall with past Chrysler V6s (the 2.7L most recently) that at idle, IF the A/C was on, it would give a little shudder. But only briefly. Is it possible you're feeling the A/C compressor kick in/out? It does put some load on the engine. I find that I still notice that now with the 2.4L 4cyl. That's the only obvious thing I can think of.

As for going to mid-grade (89) ... the engine is designed to run on 87. Yes, 89 octane WILL give you slightly improved fuel economy, usually. But that's more to do with the higher octane fuel performing better under load. Knock sensors will retard timing and de-tune your engine ... the higher octane fuel reduces engine 'knock' under load, so the engine doesn't get de-tuned to prevent damage. (At least I'm reasonably sure that's how it works ... someone may correct me there. I don't really work on my own vehicles like I used to ... before they became packed with electronics!)

I'd say the sales guy is pulling your leg though. Manufacturer says 87, use 87 - unless you WANT to go with a higher grade. It won't hurt anything but your wallet. I'd be more inclined to think you might just have a bad tank of gas. It happens now and then. Try some gas line antifreeze ... then try another station. The quality of fuel DOES vary from place to place. Normally, the busier the station, the better the fuel, because it doesn't stay underground in the tanks very long.

There is no point to using fuel with a higher octane rating than called for. As Chris pointed out, it only impacts your wallet.

One of the real curses is that they add corn alcohol to gasoline (at least to regular) in most parts of the country (the far North and Esso gasoline in Quebec being the notable exceptions). Ethanol gas goes bad quickly, and reduces fuel economy by more than the volume of gasoline it displaces - it separates out, scours crud from your fuel system into the filters, is hard on seals and sop on.

If you are in Quebec try running Esso regular.

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maybe run some Seafoam gas treatment through a tank of gas to get rid of anything that might be in there from previous inferior gas fill ups. I swear Seafoam fixes everything (almost).

Thanks for all the great replies. I only every fill up at Costco and Co-Op which I thought would be quality gas (I'm in Saskatchewan). I put a tank of Shell premium in and a bottle of gas line anti-freeze and will see how it performs at the next fill up. If it's not any better then I'll take it in again ugh.

Take a look here.. http://www.dodgejourneyforum.com/index.php?/topic/2561-rough-idle-and-a-couple-other-things/page__p__15399__fromsearch__1#entry15399

Since i've had the damper replaced, it has toned down quite a bit. Tech centre here in Windsor said that there was an issue with some of the engines that were built during a certain time ( not sure of the exact dates ) and they are addressing the issue. Show this to your dealership and ask them to contact the Windsor Ontario Chrysler Tech Centre for answers. I think they could ask for Bob Renaud as he is aware of the situation with these engines. Hope this helps.

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Just an Update: Went through a tank of premium, 1 1/2 tanks for mid grade and still no change. Took it in today and they say it's fine it's supposed to be like that. The service manager was really nice but I find it hard to believe that my $30k vehicle should have a noticeable shake in the steering wheel and seat that passengers can feel when it's idling. He said he talked to the Tech Hotline and they didn't advise him of anything regarding the engine. We are going to take out another Journey and see if they all behave this way or not.

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One more update on this. Not sure how or why but the rough idle seems to have worked it self out for the most part. The very odd time it's still rougher than I'd like but for the most part it's fine.

ours idles rough when the engine is cold. once warm, its gone. granted, in the first couple thousand miles, it ran rough alot. maybe that was what you experienced as well.

as a side note, i'm one of those who isnt really nit-picky. i look at a car as a mechanical device. its a machine and its going to make some noise or shakes or something. as long as its not "alarming", i dont worry about it.

I have a 2008 Jeep Patriot with the 2.4L and quite often I have the rough idle as well. I simply live with it. Normally I find it is at it's worst during the summer when I am using the A/C.

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Common Dodge Journey Problems: 1st Generation (2009 to 2020)

Common 1st gen Dodge Journey problems include no heat and issues with the throttle body. Learn the common problems on the 1st generation of the Dodge Journey, years 2009 to 2020, and their symptoms, causes, and fixes.

Top 5 Issues with the 1st Gen Dodge Journey (2009 to 2020)

1. heater core problems, symptoms of heater core problems.

• No heat when the heat is turned on
• Heat temperature is lower than normal

Causes of a Bad Heater Core

The heater core can clog on the 1st gen Journey from sediment in the coolant.

How to Fix a Bad Heater Core

As a temporary fix you can flush out the heater core by disconnecting the coolant hoses that lead into the firewall and connect to the heater core.

Replacing the heater core includes removing the dash, the steering wheel, and electronics like the radio. The A/C evaporative core is also part of the heater box, so the A/C system will need to be recovered and recharged.

2. Throttle Body Problems

Symptoms of throttle body problems on the 2009 to 2020 dodge journey.

• High RPMs at idle
• Rough running engine at idle
• Check engine light for code P2112 or P2110

How to Fix Throttle Body Problems

Cleaning the throttle body will not fix these problems on the 2009 to 2020 Dodge Journey. The problem is an issue with the internal sensors and motor, so the throttle body will need to be replaced.

3. Key Fob Failure

Symptoms of a bad key fob.

• Vehicle won’t start
• Door locks don’t work

How to Fix a Key Fob

If there is another remote, see if it works. If it doesn’t, replacing the key fob battery usually fixes this issue.

4. Thermostat Failure

Symptoms of a bad thermostat.

• Check engine light for code P0652

How to Fix a Bad Thermostat

To replace the thermostat, the thermostat needs to be replaced with the housing as one piece. Since a bad heater core can also cause the symptom of no heat, if the temperature gauge is not in its usual position, the thermostat likely has an issue.

5. Wiper Relay

Symptoms of wiper problems.

• Wiper speeds not working
• Windshield wipers not working

Causes of Windshield Wiper Problems

Windshield wiper problems on the 1st gen Dodge Journey tend to stem from issues with the wiper relay. If the wipers won’t turn on, it could be the motor relay, and if the wipers have issues with the settings, it could be the wiper speed relay.

How to Fix Wiper Problems

Remove the fuse box cover from the fuses in the engine bay.

Since the relays are the same part number, they could be swapped, so if the wipers are not turning on, try swapping them to see if it’s causing the issue.

If there is an issue with the wipers’ speed, the wiper speed relay will need to be swapped with a new relay to test it.

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Dodge Journey bad ignition coils symptoms, causes, and diagnosis

The ignition coils are part of the ignition system in Dodge Journey, responsible for amplifying the relatively low battery voltage from 12V to a high voltage of tens of thousands of volts for the spark plugs. Driving your Journey with bad ignition coils can damage the engine or the catalytic converter, so you must act urgently to avoid more expensive repairs.

The most common signs of bad ignition coils in Dodge Journey are engine hesitation when accelerating or loss of power, rough idle, misfires, excessive fuel consumption, check engine light illuminates, and sometimes hard starting. In worst case scenario, if the ignition coils are in really bad condition, the engine will not start.

Check engine light illuminates due to misfires

When an ignition coil start to fail or has failed in your Journey, it will cause the engine to misfire and the check engine light may illuminate in the instrument cluster. To perform further diagnostics, you will need to connect an OBD2 scanner to your vehicle. If you see any error code from P0300 to P0312, it indicates that there are misfires in the engine. However, it can happen that there are no error codes. In case of doubt, check the condition of the ignition coils and replace them if found defective.

Poor acceleration

If the ignition coils are not working properly, the engine will lose power. When you press the gas pedal in your Journey, the vehicle may hesitate to accelerate and it will take longer to reach your desired speed.

Another indication of bad ignition coils in Dodge Journey is rough idle. The engine will not run smooth when idling, and you may also feel vibrations in the cabin.

Poor fuel economy

Excessive fuel consumption is a common sign of bad ignition coils or spark plugs in Journey. If your vehicle is getting significantly lower gas mileage than usual, its time to inspect the condition of the ignition coils and spark plugs.

Hard starting

When the ignition coils go bad, it is going to take longer for the engine to turn over and start. The ignition system in your Journey will have to work a lot harder to be able to ignite the air/fuel mixture in the combustion chambers.

Your Journey may not start if most of the ignition coils have failed, as the spark plugs will not produce proper sparks due to insufficient ignition energy.

Can you repair a bad ignition coil in Journey?

A faulty ignition coil cannot be repaired; it must be replaced with a new one. However, in some cases, if the ignition coil has been contaminated due to an oil leak in the spark plug tube/well and the end of ignition coil boot has not become mushy, you may be able to restore its functionality by cleaning it with an electronic cleaner or MAF sensor cleaner. Nevertheless, If you see corrosion or rust on any ignition coil of your Journey, it must be replaced.

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How to check for a bad ignition coil in Dodge Journey?

The fastest and easiest way to check for a bad ignition coil in Journey that has check engine light on for misfire is to swap the ignition coil on the misfiring cylinder with another coil.

• Plug a scan tool to the OBD2 port in your Journey.
• Read the error code, for example if it says P0303, it means the cylinder number 3 is experiencing misfires.
• Turn off your Journey and let the engine cool down to prevent any burn injury.
• Remove the ignition coil from cylinder 3 and swap it with any other cylinder, for example cylinder 2. Caution: Do not swap the spark plug wires/connectors, only the ignition coils. Unplug the electrical connectors before swapping and then reconnect after the swap.
• Start your Journey and read the error codes with a scan tool.
• If it shows error code P0302 which indicates a misfire on cylinder number 2 and there are no misfires on cylinder number 3, it means that the ignition coil is defective and should be replaced.

Note: This method only works on vehicles with coil-on-plug (COP) type ignition coils, and will not work on coil packs.

Can I replace just one ignition coil?

Yes, you can replace just the defective ignition coil in your Journey. However, as a general rule, it is recommended to replace all the ignition coils at once as a preventative measure. This is because when one coil fails, another isn’t too far behind, especially if the vehicle has racked up over 100,000 miles.

If your vehicle is equipped with coil pack in which a group of ignition coils are physically connected together, you will have to replace the whole pack.

What causes ignition coils to go bad in Dodge Journey?

Ignition coils are subject to wear and tear under normal driving conditions, and will fail eventually, which happens mostly around 100,000 miles mark. Ignition coils can fail prematurely in Journey for a variety of reasons including overheating, vibration, moisture intrusion, engine oil leak, or issues with other components of the ignition system, such as bad spark plugs can cause a coil to output higher voltage than normal, significantly reducing its operating life.

Oil leak in spark plug wells

An oil leak in the spark plug tube can hinder the normal operation of the ignition coil in Dodge Journey, cause the engine to misfire, and can even damage the coil. This usually happens due to a leak in the spark plug tube seal in the valve cover. Replacing these seals mostly fixes the leak.

Rodent damage or faulty connector/wires

If bite marks are discovered under the hood, there is a high probability that a rodent has let off steam in the engine compartment of your Journey. Then it is important to carefully examine all the cables and hoses for damage, including electrical wires and connectors for the ignition coils.

When the electrical wires or the connector for the ignition coil goes bad, you may see an error code between P0350 to P0362 when you hook up a code scanner tool, which indicates an ignition coil circuit malfunction.

The ignition coils in Dodge Journey needs electricity to work. In case of a faulty fuse, the circuit is interrupted and the coils will not fire. Check the owners manual or the fuse box cover of your vehicle to find the exact location of the fuse for the coils. If the fuse is blown, replace it with a new one with the specified amp rating.

To check the fuse, pull it out of the fuse box using a fuse puller or needle nose plier and hold it against the light. If the metal strip is broken in the middle, the fuse has blown. You must replace it with one of the same amperage and therefore the same color. It does not matter in which direction you insert the fuse.

Does the ignition coil order matter?

When replacing ignition coils in your Journey, it does not matter which order the coils go in or if they get switched around. But what does matter is the order of spark plug wires or connectors; with the help of the labels on the connectors, make sure each connector is hooked up to its matched cylinder. Connecting ignition coil wires in the wrong order can affect the performance of the engine or prevent it from starting, and can even result in engine damage. Mostly, due to the fixed arrangement of the connectors and wires, it is not possible to swap the connectors, even by mistake.

Can you drive Journey with a bad ignition coil?

It is possible to drive your Dodge Journey with a bad ignition coil, but not recommended – as it can damage other components in your vehicle.

Spark plug fouling

A fault in an ignition coil can cause misfires due to poor sparking which can foul the related spark plugs.

Catalytic converter failure

If you continue driving your Journey with faulty ignition coils for extended period of time, it can cause total meltdown of the catalytic converter. Since a bad ignition coil cause the engine to misfire, any unburnt fuel that escapes from the combustion chamber will ignite inside the catalytic converter which will overheat it. Repeated overheating can melt the internal structures and will eventually clog the catalytic converter, which will then need to be replaced at a high cost.

Will a bad ignition coil throw a code?

A faulty ignition coil can cause an engine to misfire, when this happens you may see an error code from P0300 to P0312 depending on which cylinder is experiencing misfires. Additionally, you may see error codes from P0350 to P0362, which indicates a circuit malfunction e.g. broken wires or faulty connector.

What would cause an ignition coil not to fire?

If the ignition coils are not firing properly in Journey, it can be due to a variety of reasons including defective ignition coils, malfunctioning crankshaft position sensor, bad wire in primary circuit, bad electrical connector, or faulty ECM/PCM.

Should I replace spark plugs with ignition coils?

It is a common practice to replace the spark plugs when replacing ignition coils in Journey, especially when the spark plugs have been used for some time. Worn spark plugs can cause the ignition coils to work harder, producing higher voltage than normal, which significantly reduces its operating life.

Do better ignition coils increase horsepower?

Simple answer is no, unless the existing ones in Journey are defective. Aftermarket ignition coils installed in a stock engine do not increase horsepower, or improve fuel economy, or make the engine run any smoother.

Use OBD2 scanner for diagnosis

Since Dodge Journey is equipped with on-board diagnostics (OBD), a fault diagnosis can provide initial indications of where the malfunction is located.

To begin troubleshooting, you must first connect the diagnostic tool to your Journey. The OBDII connector is usually located under the dashboard. With the tool connected, turn on the ignition. Most diagnostic devices then ask for some information about the vehicle. It is important that you enter this 100% correctly, otherwise the result of the search may be inaccurate. In addition to the vehicle make, model, and engine type, you usually also have to type in the Vehicle Identification Number (VIN). Since some OBD codes are manufacturer-specific, the scanner will be able to give you more accurate information if you enter more details about your Journey.

If you see noticeable loss of performance or engine hesitation with high fuel consumption in your Dodge Journey, you should definitely check the ignition system of your vehicle including spark plugs, ignition coils and their connectors/wires.

In any case, it is advisable for laypersons to visit a workshop. A professional mechanic can swiftly diagnose the problem for you.

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Hey everyone, I have a 2004 dodge ram 1500 with the 5.7 hemi in it. when I start to come to a stop, the engine bogs down to almost 300 rpms and either jumps back up to normal or just keeps going and dies. I just had the egr replaced and the fuel lines flushed but it's still continues to do it. Any ideas on what it could be and how to fix it? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!  

is it throwing any type of code for you?  

It's not throwing any codes.  

I had a similiar problem, I couldn't figure it out for the life of me due to the part I wasnt getting any codes. I threw it on the hoist and it turned out to be my fuel pump harness had corroded a few wires. Replaced the harness and its good as new. It only did it when I would come to stops and it would either chug or stall right out.  

canmoparfan, I'm happy to hear you were able to find and fix the issue. @Premines19, I'm sorry to learn of the trouble you're having. Is the issue happening every time you come to a stop? If you shift into neutral before coming to a stop, does the rough idle still occur? In some cases low transmission fluid can also attribute to similar symptoms.  

Check that brake booster hose for leaks.  

Trans solinoid.....  

...did you check the tranny fluid level? I agree that it maybe low...  

Vacuum leak? 2nd thought. Check trans while warm, better hot, and in neutral, parking brake set and check level. I've had a different read on dipstick in park, something about the pump not running.  

^^^agree..hot (after about a 20 mile drive), and in neutral so the pump is working..  

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2016 Dodge Journey rough idle/whistle

I have a 2016 Dodge Journey R/T with 32,000 miles on it. A while back, I noticed a slightly rough idle. It isn’t rough like a misfiring spark plug or anything, just sometimes kind of shakes very slightly when in idle, such as at a stop light or in a drive through. Shortly after, I noticed a kind of whistling noise. I took it to the dealership and they could not find anything wrong with it. The noise turned into more of a louder whistle/high pitch squeal. I took it to the dealership again, and they still found no issue. There are no errors on the computer and no vacuum leak, as they tested specifically for it. I took the car to a mechanic shop and they told me it was my harmonic balancer. I took it back to the dealership, and they advised my harmonic balancer was fine; however, because it is under warranty, they replaced it anyways. The more squealey noise got better, and now we are back to just the slightly rough idle/whistle. Here is what I can tell you:

• the noise happens when my car is parked, but not at a regular idle. I can recreate the noise by pushing on the gas.
• I notice the noise when accelerating from stops, such as at a light or in a drive through. It sounds similar to a tea pot whistling and is fairly faint. At a certain speed I don’t tend to hear it, because the road noise drowns it out.
• The sound seems to be coming from the same area where the harmonic balancer/serpentine belt are; however, the balancer is brand new and the shop indicated the belt is fine.

A couple of family friends as well as my husband indicated it sounds like some sort of air leak, but because nothing shows up on the computer, the dealership won’t do anything. In fact, they keep telling me they can’t hear it, despite the fact that everyone else I know can. I am beyond frustrated. Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance!

Maybe you and your husband can Find the noise yourself. With the engine stopped, open the hood and stand in front. The other significant other will start the car. Listen for the sound and try to located it. No loose clothing and tie up long hair so that nothing can get stuck in the serpentine belt. You may need to lean over the engine and move your head around the engine bay to locate it. Press the accelerator if this helps locate the sound.

Dodge Journey Overheating While Idle: Causes + Fix

There are a few reasons why your Dodge Journey would be overheating when idling.  The most common ones include a bad thermostat, water pump, electric fans, and low coolant level.  This guide is intended to help you find the cause of this overheating in the most efficient way possible.  So, let’s start with what’s easy and take it from there.

If your Journey is running and driving fine, but you end up stopped somewhere and it begins overheating when idling, this guide is for you.  If it’s overheating at all engine speeds, check out  Dodge Journey Overheating .

Make sure to inspect and work on the engine when it is cold.  Electric fans can kick on at any time.

Journey:  Overheating When Idling Causes and Solutions

1. low coolant.

While it seems counter intuitive, when your Journey is low on coolant may run ok with wind hitting the radiator, but when idling there’s just not enough coolant to properly cool the engine.

Solution :  Fill the radiator and coolant reservoir back up.  Never do this when the engine is warm.  The cold engine coolant can “shock” the block and cause a crack or even a freeze plug to drop out.

Filling it back up is not the fix.  The coolant had to leak from somewhere.  Look under the vehicle when it is parked and see if you can see puddles of coolant.  If there are, start directly above those puddles in your search.

A coolant leak is usually caused by:

• Cracked Hoses –  There are two hoses that come and go to your Journey’s radiator.  One sends the hot coolant back from the engine to the radiator to be cooled.  And the other one sends the coolant back to the water pump to cool the engine.  These hoses can crack with age.  Take a look at them and see if they have been leaking.  Even if they are dry, they should still have a chalky look to them where they have been leaking coolant (it’s mineral deposits).
• Radiator Leak – Take a look at the radiator itself.  Determining if there is a leak is going to depend a lot on whether or not you can easily see the radiator.  If it has a big gouge on one of the fins, or a streak going down it that looks like coolant has dripped from it, there’s your leak.  Here’s how to find coolant leak .
• Water Pump – There are gaskets between the water pump and the engine block.  If one of these gaskets fail, then there’s going to be a leak.  This is often a hard one to see, because all of the accessories (alternator, power steering, serpentine belt) are going to obstruct your view.  This is often where the leak is coming from when there’s a puddle under the center of the engine bay and you don’t see a leak anywhere.  Here are the signs of a bad water pump  in the Dodge Journey.

2. Bad Electric Fan

If the coolant level appears to be fine, then the next easiest thing to look at is the fan.  Most vehicles use electric fans to cool the radiator when it gets warm enough.  These fans are most important when the vehicle is idling.  These fans can and do fail.  

Solution :  With the engine hot and idling (but not yet overheating) pop the hood open and see if the fan is turning.  If it is not turning at all you know you have a bad fan.

Check the fuse and fan relay to see if they are getting power.  If they are, you’ll need to replace the fan.  Here’s a good guide to troubleshooting a radiator fan .

3. Bad Thermostat

Next on the list is the thermostat.  Your Journey’s thermostat controls when coolant does and doesn’t enter the engine.  It’ll either be on the block or water pump.  

Solution :  It can be tough to tell if a thermostat is bad without just replacing it.  Does the vehicle get hot within a few minutes of driving (and the coolant is full)?  That could be enough to tell that the thermostat isn’t opening all the way.  It usually takes an engine a while to overheat when it is full of coolant.

You’ll need to replace it, which is about a 2/10 in mechanical difficulty.  Most likely you’ll just need a ratchet, extension, and 10mm socket. 

Here’s more on this:   Dodge Journey: Bad Thermostat Diagnosis

4. Bad Water Pump

The water pump in your car is turned by the Journey’s engine accessory drive system.  As the engine rpm increases, so does the speed of the water pump.  When the vehicle is idle, the water pump is turning slowly.  

Solution : A bad water pump isn’t efficient.  When the car is overheating when idling the water pump is not able to move the coolant through the radiator and back to the engine.  You can test this by putting the car in neutral or park and revving the engine to about 1000 RPM under the redline for a few seconds.  You should see the temperature dip as the water pump spools up.

Replacing a water pump is only as challenging as getting to it.  Which, depending on it’s location, can be relatively easy or a total nightmare.

Here’s more on diagnosing a bad water pump .

Honorable Mention: Temp Gauge

While your Journey’s temperature gauge is usually pretty reliable, it still is an electrical device that can fail.  A mechanic would check the temperature of the engine manually with a heat gun in order to ensure that the gauge was reading correctly before tackling the repair.

When the car is overheating when idling and you SMELL the smells associated with a temp that is too high, you can throw the temp gauge theory out.

Conclusion:  Dodge Journey Overheating When Idling

Hopefully, this guide to why your Journey may be overheating when idle helped you fix your vehicle.  If there is anything that you would like to add that could help the next person with theirs, your comment below is most welcome.

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